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NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:53 am
by gounion
Donald Trump is a congenital liar. He can't stop.

For instance, his apartment in Trump Tower is 10,996 square feet. Now, that's plenty big as is, but Trump said it was 30,000 square feet in official documents and valued it as such. Even his head financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, admitted that that inflated the value by $200 million "give or take".

Here's the NY AG's supplemental statement of facts. It's astonishing, even for Donald Trump.

But it begs the question - is this how all rich real estate developers work? And why isn't anyone watching whether they are telling the truth or not?

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:59 am
by carmenjonze
Going to read this tonight. Thanks!

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:18 am
by Drak
Here’s another related link press release

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2022/at ... ump-jr-and

The amount of fraud criming is astonishing.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:20 am
by gounion
Also, here's the second document released today: A memo explaining why the Trumps, Donald, Junior and Ivanka, should all be compelled to testify.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:31 am
by gounion
So, Trump responded to the AG's releases today by... attacking the AG. https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-ag-personally/

They just say that the AG "misrepresented" the facts. They don't rebut them, which of course, they can't.

I guess they'll fight the charges by taking the fifth amendment, like Eric did, over 500 times.

Which, Donald Trump himself says that if you take the fifth, you're guilty.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:23 pm
by Libertas
gounion wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:31 am So, Trump responded to the AG's releases today by... attacking the AG. https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-ag-personally/

They just say that the AG "misrepresented" the facts. They don't rebut them, which of course, they can't.

I guess they'll fight the charges by taking the fifth amendment, like Eric did, over 500 times.

Which, Donald Trump himself says that if you take the fifth, you're guilty.
If all the criminals refuse to talk, NOBODY goes to jail...this is new. GOP are traitors and it is that simple.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:50 pm
by gounion
Libertas wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:23 pm If all the criminals refuse to talk, NOBODY goes to jail...this is new. GOP are traitors and it is that simple.
I doubt it. Lots of people below them talking. While Weisselman may be willing to take prison for him, I doubt if the accounting firm is. They don’t have to talk. But seeing Trump and all three of his kids on the stand taking the fifth may really damage his brand with his followers.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:14 pm
by marindem01
A.G. James is hell on wheels.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:08 pm
by ZoWie
Unless prices have gone up rather dramatically, which I doubt with covid making much of NYC a war zone, no one in their right mind would value drumpf's apartment, gold plated shitter and all, at what he had it as.

It's easy to see when drumpf is lying. If it's spoken word, his mouth will be moving, and that's enough every time. If it's in writing, then it's whenever Mercury is not in retrograde, and also when it is.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:28 pm
by Libertas
ZoWie wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:08 pm Unless prices have gone up rather dramatically, which I doubt with covid making much of NYC a war zone, no one in their right mind would value drumpf's apartment, gold plated shitter and all, at what he had it as.

It's easy to see when drumpf is lying. If it's spoken word, his mouth will be moving, and that's enough every time. If it's in writing, then it's whenever Mercury is not in retrograde, and also when it is.
We all know a narcissist who is also a sociopath and nonviolent psychopath, which trump the traitor is. Calling him a traitor, which he is, means nothing to him. You NEVER see him get mad when called a cheat, liar or traitor etc, and the reason is because his brain is broken as with all people like him. He thinks that everyone lies about everything, everyone cheats EVERY human being they come in contact with, because he does, and you have to be NUTS not to. You have to be an IDIOT to serve your country and especially die for your country.

The added problem with him is he is very, and I mean VERY dumb. He has no formal education beyond basic reading and writing skills, no history or geography information at all, and he doesn't want any of that.

Nothing I have said here is an exaggeration and yet the cons love him. Sad, real fucking sad.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:13 pm
by Libertas
So the leader of the party that the board cons vote for, his company is guilty.

I bet they dont care.


https://twitter.com/davidjoachim/status ... FwZAgcyGUA



Allen Weisselberg will plead guilty in NY tax case -- but won't cooperate, NYT reports

"His plea deal would bring prosecutors no closer to indicting the former president but would nonetheless brand one of his most trusted lieutenants a felon"

Will he even go to jail? America is broken. If this was Hillary and Bill's CEO, the country would spin out of control.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:06 am
by carmenjonze
Libertas wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:28 pm The added problem with him is he is very, and I mean VERY dumb. He has no formal education beyond basic reading and writing skills, no history or geography information at all, and he doesn't want any of that.
He is the ultimate goal for conservative white males.

This is the abysmal level of humanity they actually aspire to.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:26 am
by Libertas
And am I now hearing that Weisselberg will get a fraction of the sentence that Cohen got and Weisselberg didn’t pay tax on much more than Cohen was convicted of etc. what the fuck is going on with that guy?

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:31 pm
by Number6
Libertas wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:13 pm So the leader of the party that the board cons vote for, his company is guilty.

I bet they dont care.


https://twitter.com/davidjoachim/status ... FwZAgcyGUA







Will he even go to jail? America is broken. If this was Hillary and Bill's CEO, the country would spin out of control.
And Trump will claim he hardly knows, never met the guy, and that Weisselberg was did nothing more than deliver coffee.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:37 pm
by Libertas
Number6 wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:31 pm And Trump will claim he hardly knows, never met the guy, and that Weisselberg was did nothing more than deliver coffee.
What is with the sweetheart deal, is this Bragg again?

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:53 pm
by Libertas
Herschel Walker, one of the stupidest people on earth, is who board cons want making decisions about global warming and life and death.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:31 pm
by Libertas
I wonder if Weisellberg will be around to testify in October

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:49 pm
by ProfX
Libertas wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:53 pm Herschel Walker, one of the stupidest people on earth, is who board cons want making decisions about global warming and life and death.
I just recently watched a clip of Herschel Walker arguing against Darwinian evolution. He says, "How can we be descended from apes, if apes are still around?" :roll:

Please note: dumb people come in all races and colors, and all I will say is, that statement IS so painfully dumb, it hurts. Hersch, sleeping through biology class, it really was NOT a good idea.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:55 pm
by Libertas
ProfX wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:49 pm I just recently watched a clip of Herschel Walker arguing against Darwinian evolution. He says, "How can we be descended from apes, if apes are still around?" :roll:

Please note: dumb people come in all races and colors, and all I will say is, that statement IS so painfully dumb, it hurts. Hersch, sleeping through biology class, it really was NOT a good idea.
Every con here would vote for him.

Re: NY AG facts on Trump investigation

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:59 am
by carmenjonze
Libertas wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:55 pm Every con here would vote for him.
Every con here also considers him (and me) an ape.

He and this handful of 10 other Black cons in this country are so self-loathing, they actually try to appeal to theses types of people.