1 ouf of 32 NFL head coaches are black

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It’s a start

Report: Texans expected to hire Lovie Smith as head coach

The Houston Texans are expected to hire 2021 defensive coordinator Lovie Smith as their head coach, according to Mark Berman of Fox 26 Houston and John McClain of the Houston Chronicle.

The former Chicago Bears, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and University of Illinois head coach emerged as a surprise candidate late in the interview process and will now replace David Culley, who was fired after a single season in the position.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-texans-hir ... 02709.html
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ap215 wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:44 pm It’s a start

Report: Texans expected to hire Lovie Smith as head coach

The Houston Texans are expected to hire 2021 defensive coordinator Lovie Smith as their head coach, according to Mark Berman of Fox 26 Houston and John McClain of the Houston Chronicle.

The former Chicago Bears, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and University of Illinois head coach emerged as a surprise candidate late in the interview process and will now replace David Culley, who was fired after a single season in the position.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-texans-hir ... 02709.html
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Saints are hiring Dennis Allen. That wraps it up - nine hires, one black coach. The white men win again!

We should thank Flores. If he hadn't filed the suit, the Texans would have hired McCown, a so-so ex quarterback with zero coaching experience. Flores spooked them, so they interviews Lovie Smith, who was an already an assistant with the team, yesterday and hired him today.

Goodell's going to be a grilling at the Super Bowl media day.
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gounion wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:32 pm Saints are hiring Dennis Allen. That wraps it up - nine hires, one black coach. The white men win again!

We should thank Flores. If he hadn't filed the suit, the Texans would have hired McCown, a so-so ex quarterback with zero coaching experience. Flores spooked them, so they interviews Lovie Smith, who was an already an assistant with the team, yesterday and hired him today.

Goodell's going to be a grilling at the Super Bowl media day.
Football should be outlawed. The owners are horrible pricks and the injuries are far too great and irreversible.

But I would approve of George Carlin's idea, put all the nazis and meth heads and republicans in an empty state (Kansas I guess) with walls around it, give them all the booze and meth they could ever want, and guns, and let them go at it.


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Libertas wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:38 pm Football should be outlawed. The owners are horrible pricks and the injuries are far too great and irreversible.

But I would approve of George Carlin's idea, put all the nazis and meth heads and republicans in an empty state (Kansas I guess) with walls around it, give them all the booze and meth they could ever want, and guns, and let them go at it.


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President Biden says NFL 'hasn't lived up to' commitment to hire more Black coaches

President Joe Biden has become the latest critic of the NFL’s hiring practices.

In an interview with NBC News’ Lester Holt, Biden said the NFL has not lived up to the standard it committed to in terms of hiring more minorities as head coaches. In his comments, Biden echoed sentiments expressed by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell last week, who said the league “won’t tolerate discrimination.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/president-bide ... 12889.html
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ap215 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:21 pm President Biden says NFL 'hasn't lived up to' commitment to hire more Black coaches

President Joe Biden has become the latest critic of the NFL’s hiring practices.

In an interview with NBC News’ Lester Holt, Biden said the NFL has not lived up to the standard it committed to in terms of hiring more minorities as head coaches. In his comments, Biden echoed sentiments expressed by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell last week, who said the league “won’t tolerate discrimination.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/president-bide ... 12889.html
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:49 am And then there were 4.

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Wow. FOUR! out of 32!

So is it just that blacks aren’t smart enough to be head coaches?
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13% of the population, 13% of the head coaches.

Interesting that 39% of assistants are minority.

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/nfl-teams ... d=83728057

Also interesting that former NFL players are a very small percentage of the coaching staffs. They’re likelier to be helping with their kids teams.
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:57 pm 13% of the population, 13% of the head coaches.

Interesting that 39% of assistants are minority.

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/nfl-teams ... d=83728057

Also interesting that former NFL players are a very small percentage of the coaching staffs. They’re likelier to be helping with their kids teams.
What bullshit. Let's be clear - deny it all you want, but the NFL itself admits it has a major problem with lack of diversity in coaching.

Only idiots like you would deny it, and cheer on racism.
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gounion wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:02 pm What bullshit. Let's be clear - deny it all you want, but the NFL itself admits it has a major problem with lack of diversity in coaching.

Only idiots like you would deny it, and cheer on racism.
The NFL says its an issue thing to fool stupid people like you.

39% is a pretty solid number. That will lead to more head coaches.
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:09 pm The NFL says its an issue thing to fool stupid people like you.

39% is a pretty solid number. That will lead to more head coaches.
No it won't. They had 8 chances this year, hired ONE.

And it's fine for racist assholes like you to keep blacks out of coaching. Not surprised.

Not surprised you let your white supremacist freak flag fly. We now have proof positive from your own piehole.
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gounion wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:59 pm No it won't. They had 8 chances this year, hired ONE.

And it's fine for racist assholes like you to keep blacks out of coaching. Not surprised.

Not surprised you let your white supremacist freak flag fly. We now have proof positive from your own piehole.
I’m quite pleased that 39% of the assistants are black. That will definitely expand opportunities.

And apparently you’re to stupid to count. Look at the thread title. Yet there are 4. So three additional have been hired. Not 1.

Also pleases me that the NFL has 5 black GM’s. Although the head coach of the Dolphin’s got the axe because he and the black GM were in conflict. The owner liked the GM better so out went the coach.
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:47 pm I’m quite pleased that 39% of the assistants are black. That will definitely expand opportunities.

And apparently you’re to stupid to count. Look at the thread title. Yet there are 4. So three additional have been hired. Not 1.

Also pleases me that the NFL has 5 black GM’s. Although the head coach of the Dolphin’s got the axe because he and the black GM were in conflict. The owner liked the GM better so out went the coach.
Good job of showing your racist, white supremacist freak flag.

At the time there was just one. You don't understand the concept of time.

There were LOTS of opportunities this year. They had EIGHT openings, and only hired one black coach, and one mixed-race. When the Bucs coach was pushed out, they promoted a black coach. The Chiefs have one of the best offensive coordinators in football, who should be a head coach, but no one will take him. The owners want more black head coaches, they just want other teams to hire them.

And your "39%" number is very misleading. Reality check:
There is talk every year of strengthening the career pipeline and getting more non-White coaches into positions where they can be seen as potential head coaching candidates. That can’t happen overnight, of course, but just getting into that pipeline is incredibly difficult for coaches of Color.

In 2019, researchers at Arizona State University’s Global Sport Institute examined hiring practices by NFL teams over the previous decade, and those findings have been updated to include hires made after the 2020 season.

The demographics of the head coaching hires are one thing, but there’s also a career path head coaches usually follow: position coach, coordinator, head coach. Over the past several years, as there has been more and more emphasis on quarterback play and rules meant to increase scoring, that path has increasingly meant coaching offense, and since 2016, a full three-quarters of the 40 head coaches hired have come from that phase of the game. Nine were from defense, and one was a special teams coordinator.

For the 2021 season, seven of 33 offensive coordinators are minorities, all of them Black (the Dolphins had co-coordinators). Just four of the quarterbacks coaches, most often the position that gets promoted to coordinator, are minorities – again, all Black. No team has both a Black offensive coordinator and a Black quarterbacks coach. Since the Rooney Rule was instituted – though it initially was only for head coaching interviews, not coordinators – just 25 of 244 offensive coordinator jobs have gone to non-White men (23 Black and one Chinese-American).

For the 2021 season, 12 of the league’s 33 defensive coordinators were non-White (the Minnesota Vikings have co-coordinators, one White and one Black), and a surprising eight of 32 specials teams coordinators were minorities. There were two head coaches who were special teams coordinators immediately before being selected for head coach roles (one, the New York Giants’ Joe Judge, was recently fired), so while there are those who believe special teams coordinators make good sense as head coaches because they have experience working with pretty much every player on a roster, those coordinators usually don’t jump to head coaching jobs. Still, the eight Black special teams coordinators is noteworthy.
The article is full of great info breaking down how bad things are for blacks.
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Bludogdem wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:47 pm I’m quite pleased that 39% of the assistants are black. That will definitely expand opportunities.

And apparently you’re to stupid to count. Look at the thread title. Yet there are 4. So three additional have been hired. Not 1.

Also pleases me that the NFL has 5 black GM’s. Although the head coach of the Dolphin’s got the axe because he and the black GM were in conflict. The owner liked the GM better so out went the coach.
Thanks for demonstrating why you should always ask for hard numbers instead of percentages.

Conservative whites like you prefer percentages to hard numbers because you're dishonest and the best you've got is tokenism in the service of patting yourselves on the back.

Since you've never been that one person on staff who is also the person who increased African-American representation by 100%, now is a great time for you to shut up and learn.
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carmenjonze wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:23 pm Thanks for demonstrating why you should always ask for hard numbers instead of percentages.

Conservative whites like you prefer percentages to hard numbers because you're dishonest and the best you've got is tokenism in the service of patting yourselves on the back.

Since you've never been that one person on staff who is also the person who increased African-American representation by 100%, now is a great time for you to shut up and learn.
What is it with lying rightwingers pretending to be something else? Most cons are proud to be cons, they brag about it in fact.
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Libertas wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:33 pm What is it with lying rightwingers pretending to be something else? Most cons are proud to be cons, they brag about it in fact.
My guess is this one exponentially hates himself.

Or, himselves.

Or whatever.
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