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Puerto Rico has had problems for some years now, as climate change makes hurricanes worse and nothing gets done about the infrastructure. Cuba has a similar issue, but that isn't our problem, while Puerto Rico is.
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would love to see where the "billions" of dollars went. pumping the stocks.
nbc wont let me c/p their page. :roll:

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Letter to U.S. Department of Energy, FEMA, and FERC Raises Concerns and Urges Investigation

NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today urged federal authorities to investigate the energy situation in Puerto Rico, and the energy provider LUMA Energy, LLC. Attorney General James noted that five years after Hurricanes Irma and Maria wreaked havoc on Puerto Rico, ...wreaked havoc on Puerto Rico, and after billions of federal dollars were spent to modernize and strengthen the island’s electrical grid, residents continue to endure frequent outages and high electrical rates. These issues were exacerbated by the impact of Hurricane .....
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‪i dont recall where this goes. :)


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California will require insurers to offer home coverage in wildfire-prone areas
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polluting land, animals and people.

https://truthout.org/articles/big-agric ... flu-abyss/
Big Agriculture Is Leading Us Into the Bird Flu Abyss--

The federal government’s deference to agriculture industry interests has put the US at risk of a public health crisis.
January 6, 2025
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The sale of raw milk — milk that hasn’t undergone the pasteurization process, which kills harmful bacteria and viruses such as bird flu — is banned in 20 states. While the dairy product has seen a surge of interest in recent years, particularly among anti-establishment conservatives, health experts overwhelmingly say that the potential harms outweigh the benefits.

California, which allows the retail sale of raw milk, has already announced two recalls after detecting bird flu in commercial samples. The last thing that the U.S. needs amid a burgeoning dairy industry-fueled public health crisis is raw milk deregulation. And so it’s deeply depressing that Trump has picked Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — a raw milk proponent and vaccine skeptic — to head the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the agency that oversees the various entities key to combatting public health crises,
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guess im dealing with this.

https://truthout.org/articles/indians-i ... th-crisis/
Indians in Flood-Prone Areas Are on Front Lines of Growing Mental Health Crisis--
Health care workers in India note rising instances of solastalgia, the pain of seeing one’s home environment degrade.
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Kamble would see the giant tamarind, babul, neem, and several other types of trees. “They gave relief and comfort,” he said. Over the years, these trees were cut to pave the way for broader roads, houses, industries and commercial crops like sugarcane.
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Kamble finds it difficult to share his experiences. “It’s a completely different feeling. Sometimes, I feel anxious, nervous, and then I feel like I miss something, although I live in the same place,” the 77-year-old told Truthout.

Kamble has been experiencing solastalgia, a form of emotional distress faced when the environment undergoes significant changes. It is caused by climate change, deforestation, rapid urbanization, and other environmental factors. Scholar Glenn Albrecht first introduced this term at a conference in Montreal in 2003, highlighting the unique mental pain of seeing one’s home environment degrade.

In his paper, Albrecht describes solastalgia as the pain experienced when the place one resides in and loves is under immediate assault. Derived from the word solace, Albrecht says, “Solastalgia is a form of homesickness one gets when one is still at home.”
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“If neglected, solastalgia risks becoming a chronic condition that no one takes seriously until it reaches a point of unbearable or even fatal severity, making effective treatment much harder to achieve,” .....
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Kamble, who once found solace sitting under the trees in the village, said none of those trees remain, and neither do his friends, who passed away over the years. “It’s difficult to live with this.”
Solastalgia is a term that describes the emotional distress or pain caused by negative changes in one's environment, such as those brought on by climate change or natural disasters, while still being in that environment. It reflects a sense of homesickness for a place that is no longer as it once was.
climatepsychiatry.org Wikipedia
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Tibet earthquake rescuers search for survivors in freezing temperatures

Rescue workers are searching for survivors after a major earthquake killed dozens of people and damaged more than 1,000 buildings in a remote region of Tibet, near Everest.

At least 126 people were killed, with another 188 injured, after the earthquake hit the foothills of the Himalayas at around 09:00 local time (01:00 GMT) on Tuesday, according to Chinese state media.

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Another crazy year in L.A..

Winter is always the season of extremes. Either it brings too much rain, and everything floods, or no rain at all, and everything burns. This is the year it cranked the no-rain thing to 11. Bone dry, and the weather people are telling people living anywhere near brushy areas to get their go-bags together and point the cars out toward the street so they can GTFOOH faster.

The thing that sticks in my mind is the prediction for 100 MPH wind gusts in the usual places. Every year it seems to creep up. Used to be it was 50 MPH, then 60, then 70, but that's the first time I ever saw them warning about 100.

BTW, our new president says he's got the solution. He's going to ask for $70 billion for data centers, and the heavy-duty electrical generating capacity to feed them.

That'll fix everything (not). I can only imagine who gets the money.
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SHIT! The wind hit all at once and a fire started in the worst possible spot. We may lose the whole northern side of Pacific Palisades. You couldn't pay me to live there... little roads, hard to get out, and greedy housing developments... thousand people trying to get down a 2 lane road... stopped dead... people are going to die. Massive evacuations of hundreds of houses. No way out.

Can see the smoke from here, 10 miles away. Wife called me from Hollywood, another 8 miles or so, and she saw it. Looks like a nuke cloud. No surprise... a fire of this magnitude in this fuel with this kind of wind is known to equal one Hiroshima bomb every 20 minutes.
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This is INSANE. Sirens going by, whole LAFD is being sent in from all over the city. This is the big one.
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ZoWie wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:02 pm This is INSANE. Sirens going by, whole LAFD is being sent in from all over the city. This is the big one.
topanga is hot.
im watching this live zowie. :o
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theres like three fires going around/in LA... :o :shock:
i remember when it got like this in CO...sigh. solastalgia.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/fire-e ... alifornia/
LIVE: Massive brush fire erupts in Pacific Palisades
Wind, fire danger, rain and snow in ‘bizarre’ forecast
Crews battle ‘Greater Alarm’ fire in downtown L.A.
Fire erupts in Santa Ana Riverbed amid powerful winds
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Looking at the CAL FIRE website, the Palisades Fire is 200 acres. Looking closer at the satellite map, the only real road out of there is Palisades Drive. There is a dirt fire road but that'll packed with CAL Fire vehicles and fire fighters.
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In San Diego County, there have been a number of planned communities plans submitted for approval and their main stumbling block in getting approved it there aren't enough evacuation routes.
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ah yes when we had ready to breathe oxygen.
now we have fires.

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gotta run errands. take care zowie.
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Madness..... miles from the danger area here but it's a crazy day and I have been in and out.

Palisades Fire now officially 1260 acres, but the long shot (all the way from Hollywood, zoomed way in) looks bigger. That one dumb little road down from the Highlands was gridlocked. Fire was already starting up all around but the automobiles were, uh, immobile. People got out and ran. Trees catching fire all around. They finally cleared the road by shoving cars out of the way with a huge fire dozer. People on foot, carrying what they could, like in Gaza.

No fatalities... yet...

You couldn't have paid me to live in the Highlands. It was scary enough near the beach where we had several potential escape routes. Panic in the streets more than once, but nothing like this. This is The Big One. It finally happened. It was inevitable. What part of DON'T BUILD IN A FIRE ZONE WITH ONLY ONE LITTLE ESCAPE ROAD did they have trouble understanding?

Obviously this was avoidable. Money talks, common sense walks... never should have built a whole neighborhood in the hills with one little canyon road out... crazy. Won't say told you so, no one wants to hear that but.............................

The wind is INSANE... blame climate change, gets worse every year. You get a deep low pressure area anywhere in SoCal, west LA is going to become the exhaust system... you have to use your head or you will die. Get used to it. We had our chance, we solved the problem by electing Donald Trump... twice... talk about denial. Not just a river in Egypt, folks.

They have evacuated ALL of Pacific Palisades. That's tens of thousands of people. They just said 30,000 on TV. Sounds right to me. About what I expected. 15000 structures are considered threatened. All the way from Castellamarre to Will Rogers State Park... miles and miles... grew up there, know it well, but this is fucking insane. It's the apocalyptic scenario. It finally happened.

Thank you, climate deniers.

The goddamn evacuation center for all this is right up the road from my present location. That's something like ten miles away. They closed the freeway a few exits past here, and we're nowhere near the fire. We're miles and miles away. That's how bad it is... they evacuated a whole section of LA, and LA is a very large city.

But keep telling me nothing's wrong with the climate.
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Biden's in town... got here last night. Ospreys flew over our house... those mofos are LOUD. They had to cancel the photo op he'd come here for, governor here too, made it easy to declare a disaster area. Quid est faciendum. Presumably POTUS will blow town tonight... he's still POTUS you know... thank the Laird.

KTLA channel 5 or whatever you do at your house to get it has been on-air since ten this morning. No commercials, no regular programming, nothing. It drones in the background... oldest thing I remember about these fires. Everything stops but the drone................

Three days is typical when it gets this bad. Never has since I was a young kid, still major deja vu here. Took a long time for everything to be able to go wrong at once... today is when it did.
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SCA..70mph Plus winds tonite...
talking about shutting off the elec during high winds....
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Channel 11 is at the high school I went to. Some outbuildings are burning. Can't tell if the class rooms are burning. Too dark, too smoky.

Can see flame from here... clear across west LA, ten miles easy. Looks like the apocalypse.

Tomorrow we will all wake up and see how much of Pacific Palisades is still there. Weird watching it burn. There goes Carmalita Osborne's house... there goes the Gelson's... something about our old neighborhood, but nothing definitive. I would imagine our old house would be gone, except that an oil sheik tore it down 20 years ago. His place can fucking burn for all I care. No one ever expected this, the fires always went down the canyons and missed the town... not this time...

Fire fighters all over the place. They are spectators... nothing can stop a 60 MPH wind full of fire. It's like in the movies, only more so. You see a building... it explodes... fire department doesn't even try, there's nothing they can do. Whirlwinds of fire. Looks like bad special fx only real... a city is going away.

It appears that everything from PCH to Sunset to Santa Monica Canyon is burning... this is comparable to the Great Chicago Fire. Damn, the place finally burned. And Donald Trump is going to be president...
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is this fire hitting santa monica National rec area?.....see what you mean by only one road in out of palisades. :shock:
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k, thats a horrid awful fire.... :o ...winds... :o ...smoke blowing... :o

you cant drop water in that kind of wind.
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Southern California windstorm brings havoc, cancels Biden event and the peak is yet to come

Los Angeles city firefighters battled a wind-driven blaze in Pacific Palisades that within hours had charred 1,200 acres, damaged homes on a hillside and prompted 30,000 people to evacuate.

President Joe Biden was set to speak in eastern Riverside County early Tuesday afternoon, but the event was canceled because of the weather, White House spokesperson Nicolette Jaworski said. That desert region was seeing heavy winds, causing concerns about fire danger.

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rainwater wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:29 pm is this fire hitting santa monica National rec area?.....see what you mean by only one road in out of palisades. :shock:
news talks of fire moving toward calabasas...winds blowing embers everywhere...evacs starting.
news saying...house after house...
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new CA fire...altadena....
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Santa Monica Mtns National Rec Area borders the Palisades. Yes, some of it has burned, but most of it is upwind. Calabasas is northeast of the Palisades and the fire is moving that way, but slowly.

Altadena fire is visible on the webcam at Mount Wilson. Some views of the Palisades are on one of the ALERT California webcams.

POTUS is still here but firefighting aircraft are exempt from the no fly zone. News choppers aren't, so they are grounded. The Nooz is like grunts in a battle zone. They know there's a battle going on, but they have no grasp of the general situation.

Fire department knows a little more, but they're playing whack-a-mole most of the time. The command post was threatened, so now they're in the process of moving it about 20 miles west, clear up to Zuma Beach. Yes, the LA Fire Dept has fled LA. They still have good command control of assets, but in a fire zone the size of Manhattan they're essentially spectators much of the time.

Wind supposed to hit 70 MPH tonight. Can't rule out gusts to 100 MPH. Thank you, Big Oil, for hosing our climate.

Everything I knew as a kid is gone, but the super-rich had removed as lot of it anyway, so there's less nostalgia for the Palisades. Do not mourn for Z.
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santa monica evacuating.

reporter saying fire went to the ocean.
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