Trump would have us killed if he could, any opponent.

[Drak]

There is nothing at all disastrous about Biden except his immigration policies, which I notice you're silent on.

Of course Harris is "not qualified," and I'm glad that she never will be, to bigots like you. The qualifications for you guys are being white or pliant to white conservatism, culturally stunted, socially conservative, ignorant, provincial, and undereducated.



You are so far to the right, Richard Nixon is a far left wing liberal. Not exaggerating. This post of yours is just one more proof.

That poster has been trashing Biden’s presidency since the day he stepped into office. He did the exact same thing with Obama. It’s about ideology over facts. Like most Republicans, it’s cheering for a team and a brand. It doesn’t matter how low the GOP goes or strays from what they once considered conservative politics. And he’s been trashing Harris for years. We know why.

Joe Biden is doing a very good job, especially considering he inherited a huge mess left by Republicans, which is their constant pattern.

[Drak]

OK again I return to -- so far all I've seen glenn say about (so-called) "Don't Say Gay" bill is that it doesn't bother him. Cool. I kind of have a higher threshold. Why was the law even necessary? And if it's not necessary, why was it passed in the first place? I kind of start with first questions like that.

I say that because that same question could be applied to a lot of the "culture war" policies deSantis has imposed over the last year or so.

Morally divested people and those who lack empathy wouldn’t have a problem with a bill specifically designed to attack the LGBTQ community. There’s a reason the bill is titled the way it is, who it targets and what it’s designed for.

Anyone who claims they’re not a bigot but doesn’t have a problem with bigoted/racist policies is a contradiction.


So what exactly has DeSantis done for Florida outside of owning the libs? I mean, that seems to be the appeal.

[carmenjonze]

Morally divested people and those who lack empathy wouldn’t have a problem with a bill specifically designed to attack the LGBTQ community. There’s a reason the bill is titled the way it is, who it targets and what it’s designed for.

Anyone who claims they’re not a bigot but doesn’t have a problem with bigoted/racist policies is a contradiction.


So what exactly has DeSantis done for Florida outside of owning the libs? I mean, that seems to be the appeal.

Ha they only talk in terms of owning the libs, since they're no longer allowed to actually own anybody else.

[carmenjonze]

I too have the same questions.

So far, when glenn has been asked what has deSantis successfully done in Florida, his answer has basically been "he's popular". Well, without getting into the question of the relevance of those polls and methodology and whatever else, or looking at how it varies based on respondent demographics ...

OK. That is a bit like asking is Putin successfully running Russia, and the answer back is, "Well Putin is popular." Uh, well, again, all kinds of questions there.... particularly are Russians for example really being given all the info about the Ukraine War, and what happens to people who speak out against him ... is saying "Putin is popular" "proof" "he's running Russia successfully?" That is the exact problem with 'bandwagonism'.

Dunno, seems once in a while we seem to come back to the point that the way to judge that question is the policies he supports and whether they are good for Florida.

OK again I return to -- so far all I've seen glenn say about (so-called) "Don't Say Gay" bill is that it doesn't bother him. Cool. I kind of have a higher threshold. Why was the law even necessary? And if it's not necessary, why was it passed in the first place? I kind of start with first questions like that.

I say that because that same question could be applied to a lot of the "culture war" policies deSantis has imposed over the last year or so.

DeSantis is claiming there are things in FL's math textbooks no one can find. Again, burden of proof. Why is it if these books are objectionable to FL students, he can't produce for the publishers examples of what it is that are objectionable? Isn't it a bit weird the rejected textbooks are scoring higher on the state's own BEST standards than the one he selected instead? For sure, he needs to give FL parents and voters an answer?

5 million braindead conservatives trying to make Florida into the Islamic Republic of Iran can't be wrong!

[carmenjonze]

You'd like it in Saudi Arabia. Even though their abortion laws are "to far left" for you. You wouldn't have to worry about women drivers, tho.

‘Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness’ Banned in Saudi Arabia (Exclusive) - Hollywood Reporter

Oh my goodness a Black person in some textbook! a gay person in a movie! transgender characters played by nonbinary actors!!

We better censor math textbooks and movies!!

While the film is yet to be released and also hasn’t yet been reviewed, the decision is once again said to be related to LGBTQ issues, according to Middle East sources, with the new sequel introducing the character America Chavez (played by Xochitl Gomez) who, as per her portrayal in the comics, is gay. With homosexuality officially illegal across the Gulf, films that feature any LGBTQ references or issues often fail to get past censors.

In January, West Side Story was also stopped from hitting cinemas in Saudi Arabia, the U.A.E., Qatar, Bahrain, Oman and Kuwait. This time, regional sources told THR the decision was due to the character Anybodys, written as transgender in the new adaptation and played by nonbinary actress Iris Menas.

In case you didn't know, Dr. Strange/Marvel is Disney.

:problem:

[ProfX]

Whatta world.

Saudi Arabia bans Dr. Strange MoM cuz it's got the lesbian America Chavez in it. (BTW, don't know yet, this may not even be mentioned or shown much in the film, though the comics character is and I think they're sticking to that.)

I'm just waiting till every MAGAgeek in the U.S. fumes over Ms. Marvel, who is a Pakistani Muslim girl, and calls for Disney boycotts. The trailers even show her praying with her family in a mosque.

They deserve each other.

[Glennfs]

You'd like it in Saudi Arabia. Even though their abortion laws are "to far left" for you. You wouldn't have to worry about women drivers, tho.

‘Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness’ Banned in Saudi Arabia (Exclusive) - Hollywood Reporter

Oh my goodness a Black person in some textbook! a gay person in a movie! transgender characters played by nonbinary actors!!

We better censor math textbooks and movies!!



In case you didn't know, Dr. Strange/Marvel is Disney.

:problem:

I am pro abortion because it has been established law for so long now.
However I am also pro reasonable regulations primarily 1st trimester and a 72 hour waiting period

[ProfX]

Why should there be a 72 hour waiting period? This presumes women having abortions haven't thought about it for a long time beforehand and are all doing it impulsively. Why should they have to wait? BTW, the only thing that bugs me about it more now is you're making them wait while they're facing a tighter 15 week "deadline clock" in many states.

I really find it funny the people who will fume over waiting periods to get a gun, and then propose this. Unless you know there is a Mafia hit on you tomorrow you need to defend against, for what reason can you not wait 72 hours to get a gun?

[Glennfs]

Why should there be a 72 hour waiting period? This presumes women having abortions haven't thought about it for a long time beforehand and are all doing it impulsively. Why should they have to wait? BTW, the only thing that bugs me about it more now is you're making them wait while they're facing a tighter 15 week "deadline clock" in many states.

I really find it funny the people who will fume over waiting periods to get a gun, and then propose this. Unless you know there is a Mafia hit on you tomorrow you need to defend against, for what reason can you not wait 72 hours to get a gun?

Because it is a traumatic descion that takes a one life and changes another forever

[ProfX]

I'm not disputing it ends the life of an organism that could have grown into a human person. (Also could die in infancy or get hit by a bus at age 2 or whatever else. Nobody knows the future.) I don't think it should be done on a whim. Thing is, I don't get this assumption women will do it on a whim if there is no waiting period.

When you say it "ends a life" ... well so does masturbation. Sperm are alive.

The key question is, is it ending the life of a human person? If so, it would be murder. Right? Now seriously, if you believe that - I don't but if you were "pro life" and did - then the woman terminating the pregnancy should be charged with murder.

I don't get it. These "pro life" politicians say abortion is murder. Seems to follow from that a woman having an abortion should be charged with murder. One follows from the other. The fact that Rick Scott and others hesitate to "follow through" on what should be the consequence of their convictions realize something is flawed in their position.

I don't think abortion is murder. Murder is of a human person. You have a birth certificate, not a conception certificate. Your human personhood begins legally at birth. All that said, I am fine with the basic Roe framework, which basically limits what you can do past viability, roughly 24-26 weeks into the pregnancy, because there you have a case for the fetus truly starting to be something that can exist independently outside the womb. I don't agree with any of these other limitations to 6 or 15 weeks.

Under the Roe framework, yes you can get a third trimester abortion, BUT, MUST be medically indicated, medically ordered, can't just be self-opted for by the mother, and BTW those are extremely rare.

[carmenjonze]

Today in Conservative Self-Gaslighting:

I am pro abortion because it has been established law for so long now.
However I am also pro reasonable regulations primarily 1st trimester and a 72 hour waiting period

You’re not “pro-abortion,” and this is pure weasel-wording.

You anti-aborts say things like this because you’re eagerly awaiting the minute Roe is overturned so abortion will no longer be established law.

Just like you guys are waiting to overturn Bostock, Obergefell, Briwn, and Griswold.

Ron DeCaskets’ latest abortion restriction law is one of the things duped guys support the most about his corrupt policies.

Any person who does not accept physical autonomy and reproductive rights is not “pro-abortion.” Unless you mean “hey I just knocked up another 15 year old, time to send her away to Mexico for a couple weeks.”

[marindem01]

Today in Conservative Self-Gaslighting:



You’re not “pro-abortion,” and this is pure weasel-wording.

You anti-aborts say things like this because you’re eagerly awaiting the minute Roe is overturned so abortion will no longer be established law.

Just like you guys are waiting to overturn Bostock, Obergefell, Briwn, and Griswold.

Ron DeCaskets’ latest abortion restriction law is one of the things duped guys support the most about his corrupt policies.

Any person who does not accept physical autonomy and reproductive rights is not “pro-abortion.” Unless you mean “hey I just knocked up another 15 year old, time to send her away to Mexico for a couple weeks.”

There is no such thing as, "Pro-Abortion". That is pure ConJob double speak. I am Pro-Woman. I support the right of a Woman to control over her body. I support the of a Woman, in consultation with her Doctor to decide for herself what Medications/Medical Procedures she take or have

"Pro-Abortion" is RW Slander. As usual the Troll is lying his ass off.

[carmenjonze]

Because it is a traumatic descion that takes a one life and changes another forever

That's not why.

You guys are big-government/government-overreach when it comes to reproductive rights, because the very idea of a woman free from your dictates is extremely threatening to rightwing males, regardless of what country you're in. That's why you'll fit in well in Saudi Arabia and Iran.

It doesn't stop here, either, it extends to you guys looking to overturn Griswold v. Connecticut, which puts the government back into married people's bedrooms.

Lol you sure aren't "prolife" when it comes to the lives of a guy who may or may not have passed a bad $20. "Prolife" is a canard.

[marindem01]

The one thing that WS/WN/Cons have bloviated about for ovr 50-Years is "Less Government", "No Government In The Doctor's Office", "The Government Does NOT Should NOT Decide Medical Care".

Yet, the very thing Cons supposedly hate the most, "Big Government" is the same very thing they push down the throats Women. Cons want their Women Pregnant barefoot. The so-called "Pro-Life" is nothing more than "Anti-Woman". Cons want to have complete control over a Woman's Reproductive Rights. Cons want to control a Woman's Body.

Cons only "Lmited Government" that serves them, everybody else had better damn well fall in line and do exactly what Cons want...that is their brand of "Limited Government".

[Glennfs]

I'm not disputing it ends the life of an organism that could have grown into a human person. (Also could die in infancy or get hit by a bus at age 2 or whatever else. Nobody knows the future.) I don't think it should be done on a whim. Thing is, I don't get this assumption women will do it on a whim if there is no waiting period.

When you say it "ends a life" ... well so does masturbation. Sperm are alive.

The key question is, is it ending the life of a human person? If so, it would be murder. Right? Now seriously, if you believe that - I don't but if you were "pro life" and did - then the woman terminating the pregnancy should be charged with murder.

I don't get it. These "pro life" politicians say abortion is murder. Seems to follow from that a woman having an abortion should be charged with murder. One follows from the other. The fact that Rick Scott and others hesitate to "follow through" on what should be the consequence of their convictions realize something is flawed in their position.

I don't think abortion is murder. Murder is of a human person. You have a birth certificate, not a conception certificate. Your human personhood begins legally at birth. All that said, I am fine with the basic Roe framework, which basically limits what you can do past viability, roughly 24-26 weeks into the pregnancy, because there you have a case for the fetus truly starting to be something that can exist independently outside the womb. I don't agree with any of these other limitations to 6 or 15 weeks.

Under the Roe framework, yes you can get a third trimester abortion, BUT, MUST be medically indicated, medically ordered, can't just be self-opted for by the mother, and BTW those are extremely rare.

That is a big problem. Anti gun activists start out with reasonable regulations. But, once they get those pass there will be no end until guns are banned.
Anti abortion activists are exactly the same. Offer up some reasonable restrictions. Then once those pass just keep going until abortion is banned.
Personally I am looking forward to the day when abortions are obsolete.

[marindem01]

Fuck Off Troll

[ProfX]

Anti abortion activists are exactly the same. Offer up some reasonable restrictions. Then once those pass just keep going until abortion is banned.
Personally I am looking forward to the day when abortions are obsolete.

They will be obsolete when we have perfect birth control technology (IMHO) ... we don't and I don't know when we will.

For once, I agree with you. It seems first they started with 15 weeks, with exemptions for rape, incest, health of the mother. No, that wasn't good enough, some states are making it 6 weeks, no exemptions, and I really love this: they'll possibly pursue you for going out of state to get one. Plus this "let people sue you" crap.

What I see happening in many states like Miss. is the "backdoor ban" -- they keep making it harder and harder for clinics in the state to operate, until there are only one, or maybe none.

[Libertas]

Punishing or killing Women who have sex without board con and other cons permissions is the purpose of all this.

[Glennfs]

Fuck Off Troll

From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
We all know it isn't me you are angry with.

[marindem01]

Ohhh. The Troll speaks. Is it important or is it bullshit.

Bullshit of course.

Fuck Off Troll.

[Glennfs]

Ohhh. The Troll speaks. Is it important or is it bullshit.

Bullshit of course.

Fuck Off Troll.

you really are making yourself look sad and pathetic. Personally I feel very sorry for you.

[carmenjonze]

Punishing or killing Women who have sex without board con and other cons permissions is the purpose of all this.

Without their permission, and yet at the same time, predators like Glennfs rationalize being an 18 year old forcing sex on a 15 year old who can't consent.

"But but but but she didn't say no..." is the constant refrain from the guys who do not take no for an answer. :problem:

Telling these perverts no can get you beaten, maimed, or killed.

The idea of consent frightens these colonizers.

[Glennfs]

Without their permission, and yet at the same time, predators like Glennfs rationalize being an 18 year old forcing sex on a 15 year old who can't consent.

"But but but but she didn't say no..." is the constant refrain from the guys who do not take no for an answer. :problem:

Telling these perverts no can get you beaten, maimed, or killed.

The idea of consent frightens these colonizers.

You forgot to mention we got married in 1980 and today have 3 children and 5 grandchildren. Nobody forced anyone into anything.

[carmenjonze]

You forgot to mention we got married in 1980 and today have 3 children and 5 grandchildren. Nobody forced anyone into anything.

I didn’t forget anything. But I see you skipped right over the main idea: the very concept of consent and women’s physical and reproductive autonomy makes you guys really angry, to the point of violent backlash.

You guys are going around banning books and targeting vulnerable children and families in state after state, using ages-old conservative scapegoating. You’re stupid enough to let yourself be manipulated by this old political hat trick, yet you guys have the nerve to hold up your own f’ed up families as some kind of model…the height of a supremacy complex.

[Libertas]

The reason the board cons are our physical enemy who will standby while we are killed if Trump gets power again, Trump tells his crowd to beat up people who protesting but I am the crazy one for suggesting that he would stand by and let us be killed or have us killed if we got in the way

Very angry fucking emoticon here...He worships dictators who do kill their opponents, but I am the crazy one...

If you are watching Rachel you can see my prediction coming true, red states will not certify elections they lose from now on.

Also I guess the SC is maybe going to rule that states can throw out votes and decide on elections themselves? I walked out of the room when she started talking, I am so sick of you fucking traitors.