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ProfX wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:35 am Holy crap. Peninsula Guns & Tactical is closed? You better notify them.

I'll grant they may not be in the city limits (it's technically in San Bruno), but that sure is "surrounding area".

https://www.peninsulaguns.com

P.S don't live anywhere near there, but took about 5 secs of google to find it. Yelp says it's about a 9 mile drive from city center.
Militant ignoramuses like Glennfs hear the two words "San Francisco" and immediately start descending into an automatic two minutes hate. Nothing he says about this city comes from a place of reason.

They have no concept of just how small and compact "San Francisco and the surrounding area" is. It's why we were among the first places in the country to enact a 6-county stay-in-place order. There are a LOT of people here within a very tiny space, including Bay Area suburbia like San Bruno. Consequently, people are still masking around here, even with city and state measures lifted. Many businesses and houses of worship in the city are still requiring it.

That said, it would take me 20 minutes to get from my house to San Bruno on side streets, 15 on the freeway, 45 during rush hour traffic. But 20 minutes is way too long for conservatives who apparenly think there is supposed to be a gun store on every corner, even though it takes these provincial Red Staters 20 minutes just to get to the grocery store. :problem:

We do prefer taco trucks on every corner, here, it's true.
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Whatever. He's talking crap as usual. I know of no specific extra regulations San Fran puts on gun stores that prevent them from operating there. (One of the side parts of Heller pretty much sharply limits what regs cities can pass anyway.) For sure, nothing by the state of CA, as Marin also mentioned three other places that are only a wee bit further.

Would I like to see deeper, more thorough background checks? Harsher penalties on the "scumbag dealers" who sell to criminals? Yes, but not to put gun stores out of business. BTW, as for waiting periods for gun purchases, studies show those DO reduce the rate of "crimes of passion" committed by "impulse buyers".
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ProfX wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:40 am Whatever. He's talking crap as usual. I know of no specific extra regulations San Fran puts on gun stores that prevent them from operating there. (One of the side parts of Heller pretty much sharply limits what regs cities can pass anyway.) For sure, nothing by the state of CA, as Marin also mentioned three other places that are only a wee bit further.

Would I like to see deeper, more thorough background checks? Harsher penalties on the "scumbag dealers" who sell to criminals? Yes, but not to put gun stores out of business. BTW, as for waiting periods for gun purchases, studies show those DO reduce the rate of "crimes of passion" committed by "impulse buyers".
“ The San Francisco Board of Supervisors on Tuesday approved an ordinance requiring firearms dealers to videotape all gun and ammunition sales and share data on ammo sales with the San Francisco police department.

The proposal unanimously approved by the board Tuesday requires firearms dealers in San Francisco to install surveillance equipment in order to record sales that could later be used in criminal investigations. The ordinance requires a second board vote, which is expected.

Currently, city law requires ammunition sale records only for those who buy it in large quantities.

The proposed legislation drove the city's only gun shop — High Bridge Arms — to announce in September that it would close for good rather than subject customers to any surveillance requirements.”

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/s ... s/1993054/

That’s probably sufficient incentive to setup shop outside the city limits.
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Bludogdem wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:33 pm “ The San Francisco Board of Supervisors on Tuesday approved an ordinance requiring firearms dealers to videotape all gun and ammunition sales and share data on ammo sales with the San Francisco police department.

The proposal unanimously approved by the board Tuesday requires firearms dealers in San Francisco to install surveillance equipment in order to record sales that could later be used in criminal investigations. The ordinance requires a second board vote, which is expected.

Currently, city law requires ammunition sale records only for those who buy it in large quantities.

The proposed legislation drove the city's only gun shop — High Bridge Arms — to announce in September that it would close for good rather than subject customers to any surveillance requirements.”

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/s ... s/1993054/

That’s probably sufficient incentive to setup shop outside the city limits.
So it’s only okay for the GOP to legislate legal business owners out of business, right?
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Bludogdem wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:33 pm “ The San Francisco Board of Supervisors on Tuesday approved an ordinance requiring firearms dealers to videotape all gun and ammunition sales and share data on ammo sales with the San Francisco police department.
There's lots of places I go where I am videotaped and recorded. Banks, casinos, jewelry stores, some department stores.

I think sometimes it is a bit excessive, but at this point I can't be terribly bothered about it. Why should a gun buyer be extra bothered by it? If they've got nothing to hide, they bought the gun lawfully and intend to use it lawfully ... well, so a video recording of that exists. Why worry?

I don't see that as particularly onerous, nor based on any kind of intent to force gun stores not to operate.
The proposed legislation drove the city's only gun shop — High Bridge Arms — to announce in September that it would close for good rather than subject customers to any surveillance requirements.”
Bully for them. Maybe some of their customers did not want to be recorded. I again don't think the intent of this law was focused to drive them out of business or prevent any gun stores from operating there.

All I can say is, if you don't want to be recorded in other public places, you might need to be equally paranoid in a number of other shopping and retail locations. Maybe you don't care as much about your food and clothing purchases being recorded - dunno.

If this was a backhanded way to prevent people living in SF from obtaining guns -- well, geez, they forced them to drive 20 minutes to the nearest gun store in San Bruno. Could have tried harder guys.
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ProfX wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:59 pm There's lots of places I go where I am videotaped and recorded. Banks, casinos, jewelry stores, some department stores.

I think sometimes it is a bit excessive, but at this point I can't be terribly bothered about it. Why should a gun buyer be extra bothered by it? If they've got nothing to hide, they bought the gun lawfully and intend to use it lawfully ... well, so a video recording of that exists. Why worry?

I don't see that as particularly onerous, nor based on any kind of intent to force gun stores not to operate.


for them. Maybe some of their customers did not want to be recorded. I again don't think the intent of this law was focused to drive them out of business or prevent any gun stores from operating there.

All I can say is, if you don't want to be recorded in other public places, you might need to be equally paranoid in a number of other shopping and retail locations. Maybe you don't care as much about your food and clothing purchases being recorded - dunno.
Face it, these folks want to arm the right to the teeth, because they want to overthrow our duly elected government. They don’t want any accountability on guns.
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gounion wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:03 pm Face it, these folks want to arm the right to the teeth, because they want to overthrow our duly elected government. They don’t want any accountability on guns.
They want the right to open carry their guns and to showoff their guns in public but they're afraid of being recorded buying their guns and ammunition? Makes no sense to me.
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When conservatives say this about abortion and civil rights rulings, they are lying.

Their goal is to rescind these established laws.
Glennfs wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:13 am I am pro abortion because it has been established law for so long now.
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carmenjonze wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 9:03 am When conservatives say this about abortion and civil rights rulings, they are lying.

Their goal is to rescind these established laws.



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Thinking about the many times Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett assured the Senate Judiciary Committee and the American people that Roe v. Wade was “established precedent.” I didn’t believe them, but they said it under oath.

https://twitter.com/repdonbeyer/status/ ... _AnbaoePaA
That poster claimed to be against abortion in the past. At least he was honest when he said that, which is extremely rare.
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Drak wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 9:10 am That poster claimed to be against abortion in the past. At least he was honest when he said that, which is extremely rare.
Glennfs will directly contradict himself any way the wind blows, to try and make himself look like something other than the extremist he is. If JoeMemphis is the dumbest person on this board, afaic, Glennfs is the most dishonest.
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carmenjonze wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 10:30 am Glennfs will directly contradict himself any way the wind blows, to try and make himself look like something other than the extremist he is. If JoeMemphis is the dumbest person on this board, afaic, Glennfs is the most dishonest.
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gounion wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:03 pm Face it, these folks want to arm the right to the teeth, because they want to overthrow our duly elected government. They don’t want any accountability on guns.
And anyone in doubt can take a look at them trying it just last year.

Oh and watch the conservative cowards around here constantly dismiss, minimize, and try to sweep it under the rug.
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gounion wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:03 pm Face it, these folks want to arm the right to the teeth, because they want to overthrow our duly elected government. They don’t want any accountability on guns.
They’re already armed. They aren’t overthrowing the government. The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of gun owners are not a threat to anyone or anything.

And a few whack jobs are not going to overthrow the government. They’re just going to jail.
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Bludogdem wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 3:57 pm They’re already armed. They aren’t overthrowing the government. The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of gun owners are not a threat to anyone or anything.

And a few whack jobs are not going to overthrow the government. They’re just going to jail.
Yeah, well, 9/11 was just a few whack jobs,too.
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Congratulations and thanks for playing "Carmen's Exact Words Were..."!

You win Domestic Terrorism Enabler of the Hour!
Bludogdem wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 3:57 pm They’re already armed. They aren’t overthrowing the government. The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of gun owners are not a threat to anyone or anything.

And a few whack jobs are not going to overthrow the government. They’re just going to jail.
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gounion wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 4:38 pm Yeah, well, 9/11 was just a few whack jobs,too.
20 years later, we're still taking off our shoes at the airport, and they're still trying to ban "shariah law." :roll:

Oh wait, I mean CRT and SEL and woke math books.

And Muslims from every corner of the world. :problem:

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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:36 pm … I would vote for De Santis in a heartbeat and he would be a major improvement over our current president.
One delusional confederate, eager to vote for another. :?

You are being manipulated.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:43 am One delusional confederate, eager to vote for another. :?

You are being manipulated.
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Emperor Desantis gives his absurdly false version of how he expects history to be taught: “It was the American Revolution that caused people to question slavery. No one had questioned it before we decided as Americans that we are endowed by our creator with unalienable rights.”

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Rewriting history.

DeFascist’s policies and authoritarian leadership style is no different than Trump’s. He’s exactly the same, a Trump MAGA replicant. So when clown shoe over here claims he didn’t vote for Trump, well, it’s a silly lie.
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Drak wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:18 am Rewriting history.

DeFascist’s policies and authoritarian leadership style is no different than Trump’s. He’s exactly the same, a Trump MAGA replicant. So when clown shoe over here claims he didn’t vote for Trump, well, it’s a silly lie.
[bold]No, no he's not......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis
DeSantis graduated from Yale in 2001 with a B.A. magna cum laude.[15] After spending a year as a history teacher at the Darlington School,[16] he attended Harvard Law School, graduating in 2005 with a Juris Doctor cum laude.[17][18]
That makes DeSantis far, far, more dangerous than Trump.
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bradman wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:33 am [bold]No, no he's not......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis


That makes DeSantis far, far, more dangerous than Trump.
Agreed. He’s worse.
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Yes as a person he’s even worse and more dangerous. But his policies are identical.

Same for MGT, Boebert, Gosar, and the rest of those tea party Freedom Caucus freaks.

Biggest freak of all among them: Ralph Norman.

All of these people’s policies are the same: bigoted, racist, misogynist, anti-LGBTQ, extremist, punitive, authoritarian, allied with Trump.

That’s why Glennfs votes for them.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:36 pm … I would vote for De Santis in a heartbeat and he would be a major improvement over our current president.
White conservative smaller limited government is totalitarian authoritarianism for the rest of us. It always has been since you guys started stinking up these shores 400 years ago.

The resurgence of whites-rule authoritarian government is the appeal of this dirty conservative politician.
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Even murderous, religious fascist Iranian mullahs have more integrity than American white cons.

At least the mullahs don’t impose their violent religious fascism on the populace under the guise of free dumb.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:36 pm I would vote for De Santis in a heartbeat and he would be a major improvement over our current president.
Gadsden County commissioner appointed by Gov. DeSantis resigns after KKK costume photo emerges - Tallahassee.com

You guys are a bunch of dirty little confederates, looking to strip the rest of us of basic rights.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:36 pm ... I would vote for De Santis in a heartbeat ...
How come so many of your politicians are human trafficking perverts?

Do you guys miss the human trafficking of chattel slavery that much??

Innocence Sold: Florida’s foster system provides dangerous sex traffickers with easy access to vulnerable children - Sun-Sentinel, free with email signup
Second of four parts.

Jayden Alexis Frisbee died last year at age 16. She had a passion for animals and music.

She left behind grieving sisters, a baby brother, her mother, and a grandmother who still can’t forgive herself for ever letting the Florida Department of Children and Families into Jayden’s life.

The state was in charge of Jayden through its privatized foster care system, and it made an inadequate, unstable parent. Jayden was shifted among 12 foster homes in a year and a half, and neighborhood sex traffickers caught up with her along the way.

She died on Jan. 11, 2021, in the bathroom of a Jacksonville Studio 6 motel.

A yearlong investigation by the South Florida Sun Sentinel exposed the complicity of Florida’s child welfare system in underage sex trafficking, through evidence found in government records, state and federal lawsuits, research studies, and interviews with victims and family members.


The Sun Sentinel found:

• When Florida’s child welfare system takes in a girl, the odds she will be trafficked for sex increase.

• Florida exploited a loophole so it could keep sending vulnerable girls to group homes, despite a federal law that discourages their use. Teen girls at those homes have been preyed on by traffickers who sometimes “shark” the block, waiting for a girl to walk to the corner store.

• Young people with a history of commercial sexual exploitation run away from group homes at an alarming rate, and those runaways are even more susceptible to sex trafficking. Yet, once they’re gone, no one tries very hard to find them, and nothing in Florida law requires them to.
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