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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:20 am Otherwise it becomes a fuck you no fuck you fest of division among people who aren't that far apart.
Conservative whites and your sh#tty laws are responsible for dividing this country by race, gender, sexuality, immigrant status, religion, and any other social category you guys have made a habit of legally discriminating against. You guys got away with it for centuries, until you were stopped in your tracks by civil rights, veterans rights, lgbtq and disability rights.

This is why your latest ploy in the form of "divisive concepts" laws in schools are headed right back to the rightwing dumpster they came from, along with those other sh#t laws and policies.

‘An Affront to Open Discourse’ - Inside Higher Ed
PEN America and the American Association of Colleges and Universities come out once more against so-called divisive concepts bans, saying they represent the biggest threat of all to free speech.

The recent wave of educational “gag orders” restricting the teaching of race, gender or other so-called divisive concepts is a dire threat to what makes American higher education unique and sought after. Such legislation is a far greater threat to free speech than any problem it might be trying to solve, and it also risks colleges’ and universities’ accreditation. Institutions must speak out against this kind of government censorship, which is not politics as usual.

These were the major themes that emerged during a Wednesday panel organized by the free expression group PEN America and the American Association of Colleges and Universities. The occasion was the release of a new joint statement from the two groups opposing legislative restrictions on teaching and learning, which notes that 70 such bills affecting higher education have been introduced in 28 states, and passed in seven states, since January of last year. (More states have passed bills affecting K-12 education.)
Regarding critical race theory, gender and other concepts that this legislation targets, Nossel said, “It’s a very specific perspective that’s being called out and made illegal. This is an affront to open discourse, to the values that we stand for as an organization. For me personally, I find this, as an American, something I never expected to see or witness in my own country. And I think it’s extremely important to point this out this is not just part of the culture war. This is not just a tussle of sorts between the right and the left. This is a real turning of the backs of our governors and legislatures away from fundamental constitutional principles.”
Not all presidents have openly opposed such legislation, however. Kent Fuchs, president of the University of Florida, for instance, recently told faculty members not to violate a new state law that he said governs “instructional topics and practices.” The law, known as HB 7, is better known among its supporters as the Stop the Wrongs to Our Kids and Employees (WOKE) Act, which Republican governor Ron DeSantis introduced in December as a bulwark against the “state-sanctioned racism that is critical race theory.” Faculty members were also warned that running afoul of this new law could result in "large financial penalties" for the university, based a separate new law enforcing HB 7.
The point is creating another avenue to defund public schools. You guys never got over desegregation and integration, and it shows. So now you guys go around displacing that same hate on to some of the country's most vulnerable kids, trans kids.
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The weaponization of CPS against LGBTQ people needs to end.

First it was Abbott in Texas, who is using CPS to investigate the families of all trans kids.

Now it is DeSantis in Florida, who may use CPS to investigate and take kids if you go to a kid friendly drag event.

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So much for all that crap about "parent's rights" and being "profamily". :roll: :problem:

Conservatism has been destroying families since murdering Native American families, forcing their kids into government boarding schools, and selling Black children down the river.

So, all these supposed smaller-government conservatives have gotten used to behaving this way, I guess.
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gounion wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:54 am Look at this body:

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And that body couldn’t beat a ranked male pro.
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Bludogdem wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:57 pm And that body couldn’t beat a ranked male pro.
:?

This is just a stupid argument.

You don’t know that, plus, all the maleness in the world will not help you even step on to the court with her.

You guys are so desperate to cling to your male/supremacist ideology, you can’t think clearly.
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By the way, this is where phenotype-policing and misgendering of Black women athletes lands you. Not worth it.

Banned Russian tennis boss defends ‘Williams brothers’ comment - Toronto Star, 2014
Calling Serena and Venus Williams 'brothers' and 'scary' on Russian TV meant as joke, Shamil Tarpischev says amid backash.
MOSCOW—Russian Tennis Federation head Shamil Tarpischev was unrepentant Saturday in the wake of controversial comments about Serena and Venus Williams, saying they were only meant as jokes and that he doesn’t understand why he was banned for a year by the WTA Tour.

Tarpischev was fined $25,000 and suspended from tour involvement for 12 months after referring to the Williams sisters as “brothers” and called them “scary” to look at.

Asked whether he regretted his comments on a Russian TV program, Tarpischev told The Associated Press at the Kremlin Cup that the program was “a humorous show,” adding, “I don’t answer stupid questions.”

When asked about his ban, Tarpischev said: “I can’t comment. I don’t understand it.”

In a statement released later by the Russian Tennis Federation, Tarpischev denied any “malicious intent” and said his quotes had been taken out of context.

“I didn’t want to offend any athlete with my words,” he said. “I regret that this joke . . . has garnered so much attention. I don’t think this incident deserves so much fuss.”

The Williams sisters are “outstanding athletes” who “personify strength and perseverance,” he added.

The WTA said it would seek his removal as chairman of the Kremlin Cup tournament, which ends Sunday.[/quote]
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No wonder so many American conservative whites are so in love with Russia. :problem:

Olympic ‘Purity’ Pundits Slam Biles in Racist, Transphobic Media Tirade - Daily Beast
In a hateful rampage that is shocking even by the Kremlin’s standards, Russian state TV is railing against Black and LGBTQ+ athletes competing in the Tokyo Olympics, blasting the Games as a cesspool of degradation, debauchery, and “impurity.”

The most recent target of these attacks is star gymnast Simone Biles, who withdrew from the women’s gymnastics team final on Tuesday, citing mental health concerns.

“According to her passport, she is actually a woman. What this woman has been taking in order to look like this, God only knows,” Olga Skabeeva, host of the Kremlin-sponsored TV program 60 Minutes, said of Biles, who was the first to congratulate Russian gymnasts on their Olympic gold medals.

Skabeeva’s ugly tirade continued: “She supposedly has heart problems and therefore is gobbling up Meldonium and all kinds of other stuff… Now look at our gymnasts, they’re one-third her girth and actually look like girls! ...
What exactly do girls look like, Glennfs?

Do tell.
... They also look like people, but Simone looks like devil knows what.”

The 60 Minutes host—who, in the same broadcast, suggested that the tropical storm swirling toward Japan is “God’s punishment” for allowing LGBTQ+ participants at the Olympics—is just one of an army of Kremlin loyalists engaged in a weeks-long media campaign against Black and trans Olympians.

“Historically, in the United States and Europe, sports were the pastime of white males, because why would a negro be jumping around in the ring, instead of picking cotton?” Alexei Naumov, of the Russian International Affairs Council, said on 60 Minutes last week. His rant included a point where he pondered out loud about whether Black people should be segregated into “Negro League” competitions, claiming “they run faster than whites.”

Discussing the inclusion of trans competitors in the evening broadcast of 60 Minutes the same day, military expert Igor Korotchenko fumed, “It’s a nasty sight. If those people want to compete, take them out somewhere out of bounds of the Olympic games, because it’s a disgrace for the Olympics. In ancient Greece, people of non-traditional sexual orientation weren’t allowed to participate.
:? oh my goodness! Not people of non-traditional sexual orientation!

Who's gonna tell this clown what "going Greek" means, and why it means that...
We need to protect the purity of the Olympic games.”
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:51 pm No wonder so many American conservative whites are so in love with Russia. :problem:

Olympic ‘Purity’ Pundits Slam Biles in Racist, Transphobic Media Tirade - Daily Beast



What exactly do girls look like, Glennfs?

Do tell.



:? oh my goodness! Not people of non-traditional sexual orientation!

Who's gonna tell this clown what "going Greek" means, and why it means that...



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Not clicking on that, since I don't want to end up at some WN site.

What is this?
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:04 pm Not clicking on that, since I don't want to end up at some WN site.

What is this?
No kidding...
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:31 pmNo kidding...
Probably some anti-trans propaganda.

I can't stand these filthy bigots still trying to force a two-tiered society on this country. :problem:
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:34 pm Probably some anti-trans propaganda.

I can't stand these filthy bigots still trying to force a two-tiered society on this country. :problem:
Reminds me, the new Star Trek show on Paramount +, new Trans and Non-Binary characters? Saw a story about it.

Bet the cons hate that.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/star-t ... 234824183/



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It’s hard to overstate how significant of a milestone this is for LGBTQ representation, on TV in general and for “Star Trek” especially. Despite groundbreaking portrayals on shows like “Transparent,” “Orange Is the New Black,” “Pose” and “Billions,” trans and non-binary characters remain quite rare on TV, and there has never been explicitly identified trans and non-binary representation on “Star Trek.”
Oh yeah, per highlighted area, they will hate it.
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:36 pm Reminds me, the new Star Trek show on Paramount +, new Trans and Non-Binary characters? Saw a story about it.

Bet the cons hate that.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/star-t ... 234824183/



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Oh yes, I love the new Star Trek Discovery. Gayest show, ever!
Bet the cons hate that.
F. them.
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Yeah, who do I want to spend my time with, the above or

(insert photo of angry Kavanaugh face or Tucker Carlson etc)

Talk about two DRASTICALLY different types of people. One group filled with love and hope, the other with hate and destruction.


THE ORVILLE is back with two new episodes, I dont know if I like it or not.
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So, while these ignorant, backwards conservatives like Glennfs and greengrass are still overfocused on irrelevant voyeurism like bathrooms and sports and “surgery”, their politicians like Abbot and Glennfs hero DeSantis are implementing police states against trans-friendly families and trans young people.

How come these people like Glennfs are perpetually freaked out about “surgery” when it’s a trans person, but these people never GAD about forced “corrective” surgeries done on intersex infants and children. Rhetorical question. These cons don’t care about children except when they’re good as bragging tools and other social props.

Anyway. Abbot got his butt smacked down by a judge, yesterday.
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The minute these dirty rightwing bigots start investigating these conservative families that abuse, torment, conversion-therapy, and kick out their LGBTQ kids, I’ll eat my hat.

Those are the child abusers, not the people who actually support their children, jfc how counterintuitive can you get.

This is how violent these cons here are: here it is Pride month and we've got these people actively arguing against LGBTQ rights and buying into the groomer/predator narratives.

Especially trans rights.

These amoral cons around here are the groomers and predators - check out that guy who passionately defends having sex with a 15 year old girl as an 18 year old guy.

Ask yourselves why they think beating down the most vulnerable groups is a good idea -- immigrants, trans children, letting the immunocompromised die by COVID. Conservatives have something wrong with them.
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Exclusive: Self-described "Christian fascist" movement is trying to sabotage LGBTQ Pride Month - Salon
Last weekend's vicious episode in Dallas wasn't isolated — it was part of a coordinated far-right assault

n Saturday morning in the Dallas "gayborhood" of Cedar Springs, an LGBTQ bar called Mr. Misster hosted a family-friendly "drag queen brunch" advertised with the tongue-in-cheek slogan, "Drag Your Kids to Pride." The event was intended to be light-hearted, featuring musical chairs, mocktails and a chance for kids to vogue alongside the performers.

But before the doors had even opened, the whole thing turned ugly, as dozens of right-wing protesters showed up on the sidewalk outside, recording attendees, calling them "disgusting" "groomers" or "faggots" who wanted "to cut the dicks off of little boys" and even following and heckling both performers and attending families as they walked back to their cars.

"It's going to be so kek when we take away all your rights," one protester associated with the white Christian nationalist America First/groyper movement told a counterprotester who was defending the event, using movement slang that roughly means "lol." In response, hard-right YouTuber and protest leader John Doyle, who was standing nearby, added with a smirk, "Every single one of them."
GOP House reps show up to Groyper/America First events.

The RNC is silent, as are the good germans around here.
By Monday afternoon, Texas state Rep. Bryan Slaton, a former pastor, had issued a press release promising to introduce a bill banning drag performances in the presence of minors.

"The events of the past weekend were horrifying and show a disturbing trend in which perverted adults are obsessed with sexualizing young children," Slaton said. While he would never take his own kids to such a show, he continued, "Protecting our own children isn't enough, and our responsibility as lawmakers extends to the sexualization that is happening across Texas."

By that evening, Media Matters reported, far-right Florida state Rep. Anthony Sabatini, a QAnon supporter currently running for Congress, vowed to follow suit — and go further — by "proposing Legislation to charge w/ a Felony and terminate the parental rights of any adult who brings a child to these perverted sex shows aimed at FL kids."

But as the event became powerful fodder for right-wing outrage, less attention was paid to who was behind it. A series of videos of the protesters taken by a local progressive mutual aid group, Elm Fork John Brown Gun Club, noted that many of the protesters were "self-described Christian fascists." As it turns out, that's not hyperbole or name-calling but literally true. The protesters who gathered outside Mr. Misster last weekend represented various groups, but virtually all of them were affiliated with or inspired by the extremely online, extremely radical Gen-Z version of the alt-right. Many were also connected to the America First/"groyper" movement led by avowed racist and Christian fascist Nick Fuentes.
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Bludogdem wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:57 pm And that body couldn’t beat a ranked male pro.
So all you got to say is males are superior? What bullshit.

Some of us remember Bobby Riggs. Sometimes all you guys get is egg all over your face.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:34 am So all you got to say is males are superior? What bullshit.

Some of us remember Bobby Riggs. Sometimes all you guys get is egg all over your face.
A 55 year old former pro vs a 29 year old world class pro. Wow, you are stupid.

Venus and Serena played a set each against the 203rd ranked male pro Karsten Braasch. They both lost.

Yeah male pros are superior. Bigger, stronger, faster, quicker reflexes, better endurance. It’s a nature thing.
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Bludogdem wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:27 am A 55 year old former pro vs a 29 year old world class pro. Wow, you are stupid.

Venus and Serena played a set each against the 203rd ranked male pro Karsten Braasch. They both lost.

Yeah male pros are superior. Bigger, stronger, faster, quicker reflexes, better endurance. It’s a nature thing.
Riggs was sure he was so superior he could beat King. He was an idiot. Women are getting better and better all the time. Will they reach the level of males? Who knows? I'll bet Serena could kick YOUR ass, at any age. So much for your male superiority.

Of course, that's not what this is about, now, is it? All you can do is deflect, not debate. You've never been able to, Green Grass. You are the inferior here.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:31 am Riggs was sure he was so superior he could beat King. He was an idiot. Women are getting better and better all the time. Will they reach the level of males? Who knows? I'll bet Serena could kick YOUR ass, at any age. So much for your male superiority.

Of course, that's not what this is about, now, is it? All you can do is deflect, not debate. You've never been able to, Green Grass. You are the inferior here.
You can’t address the facts. They were beaten easily by a male ranked 203. Two of the finest female athletes ever. Simply shows the vast biological differences. Especially at the top tier.

I was the back of the bench college basketball player glen described. I would have routinely scored 50 against the girls team. It’s a simple fact of nature.
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Bludogdem wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:39 am You can’t address the facts. They were beaten easily by a male ranked 203. Two of the finest female athletes ever. Simply shows the vast biological differences. Especially at the top tier.

I was the back of the bench college basketball player glen described. I would have routinely scored 50 against the girls team. It’s a simple fact of nature.
Oh, that's fucking hilarious. Here's just another thing you supposedly did in your life. What bullshit.

Tell you what, why don't you prove that? I take it this was BEFORE you ran Humphry's civil rights campaign, right?

This shows you really have nothing and can't debate.
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Bludogdem wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:27 am It’s a nature thing.
"Nature" has nothing to do with this chosen belief of yours.
gounion wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:31 am I was the back of the bench college basketball player glen described. I would have routinely scored 50 against the girls team. It’s a simple fact of nature.
See the remark above, guy who beta tested Lexis Nexis and had several people posting on one account at RFL 1.0.

Sit down.
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Bludogdem wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:39 am You can’t address the facts. They were beaten easily by a male ranked 203. Two of the finest female athletes ever. Simply shows the vast biological differences. Especially at the top tier.
Reminder: none of you have ever played girls or women's sports as a girl or woman.

Transgender girls and women are not men.

You would have no idea or clue who is or who is not transgender on your team or the other team. Not based on performance, not based on phenotype, not based on looks, or your 1950s Barbie/Ken stereotypes.

But thanks for admitting that these arguments are based in male supremacism, sexism, and anti-trans propaganda. "Nature" has nothing to do with your chosen gender ideology, which you guys are reliant on to maintain sex- and gender-based discrimination, and a two-tiered society.
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gounion wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:43 am I take it this was BEFORE you ran Humphry's civil rights campaign, right?
:lol:

Or maybe it was after one of those golf games with lawyers.
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Bludogdem wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:27 am Wow, you are stupid.
Your party has been very steadily attacking both general LGBTQ rights and especially transgender rights and transgender children based on your males-rule ideology.

A judge just stopped Texas in its tracks from punitive criminalization of families that support their transgender children.

Florida is trying to implement these same kinds of laws.

Best you clowns like you and Glennfs can do is speculate and guess about how strong Venus and Serena are.

Don't you idiots know this kind of predatory white male voyeurism of Black women has a long history?
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