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Glennfs wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:55 pm you never seem to hear about dozens of shootings there every weekend.
Might point to a media bias problem, or a media bias problem to the media you listen to, but objective fact, not opinion, in 2022, the homicide rate in Memphis is currently higher than Chicago.
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BTW, looks like I was wrong.

Eyewitness testimony appears to suggest the Philly shooting started out as an fistfight/brawl among a group of people, obviously several of which were armed, and it then escalated.

https://www.inquirer.com/crime/south-st ... 20605.html
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"Racist Terrorism": Ex-Buffalo Cop Says Gun Violence & White Supremacy Must Both Be Addressed
As President Biden calls on Congress to enact new gun control measures, we go to Buffalo to speak with Cariol Horne, a racial justice advocate and former Buffalo police officer.

She says the nation must address white supremacy, as well as gun control, following last month's massacre in Buffalo, when a white supremacist attacked a grocery story, fatally shooting 10 people, all of whom were Black.

"He victimized everyone in that community, even the people who arrived on the scene after it happened and watched the carnage that he left behind," says Horne. "This is racist terrorism. We have to call it what it is." Horne also talks about how she was fired from the Buffalo police force for stopping a white officer from choking a Black man who was handcuffed.
She said the only reason to carry these type of weapons is to mass slaughter people. I don't want to see police go up against these type weapons and likewise don't want to see police go up against the public with these weapons also don't want people to go up against the public with these type weapons nor school children or movie theater patrons or shopping center customers or workers.
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Cons point to Chicago because they are racist and while they dont have a CLUE what is happening, where or why, they know "Chicago" is code for "us white supremacists are superior to any and all POC." This lie they tell themselves keeps them warm at night.

Just by mentioning Chicago they expose exactly who they are.
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Libertas wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:30 pm Cons point to Chicago because they are racist and while they dont have a CLUE what is happening, where or why, they know "Chicago" is code for "us white supremacists are superior to any and all POC." This lie they tell themselves keeps them warm at night.

Just by mentioning Chicago they expose exactly who they are.
He only says chicago because he can't get away with saying those niggers.
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Sen. Chris Murphy 'more confident than ever' Congress can reach deal on gun laws but anxious about failure

(CNN) Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy, the lead Democratic negotiator in bipartisan talks on gun control legislation, said Sunday he's "more confident than ever" lawmakers will be able to get something done to address gun violence across the US, while acknowledging he's also concerned their efforts could fail.

"I've never been part of negotiations as serious as these. There are more Republicans at the table talking about changing our gun laws, investing in mental health than at any time since Sandy Hook," Murphy told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union," referencing the mass shooting in 2012 at an elementary school in his home state. "I've also been part of many failed negotiations in the past, so I'm sober-minded about our chances."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/05/politics ... index.html
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Uvalde mother who ran into school describes being handcuffed, saving kids during shooting: ‘I’m going in there’

As state authorities investigate the police response to the Uvalde school shooting, a mother of two Robb Elementary School students described her experience in the chaos, from being handcuffed to saving her kids.

Angeli Gomez told CBS News that she rushed to the school at 100 miles per hour when she heard the news about an active shooter.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/06 ... -in-there/
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:48 am He only says chicago because he can't get away with saying those niggers.
Even I didnt think of that...but you are of course right.
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ProfX wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:47 pm As long as we're posing questions,

Looking at cities with the worst homicide rates in 2022,
https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-ci ... st-murders

Chicago is the 10th worst on the list.

Could just as well ask why focus on that one, and not cities 1-9? (#1 is St. Louis, MO.)
Chicago attracts attention simply by virtue of the highest body count.

Actually Jackson Mississippi has the worst rate at 100 per 100k.

Gary Indiana has a 58 per 100k.

Somewhere there might be a community of small population with a much higher rate.

The bulk of the problem is simply drugs, gangs, turf.
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:24 pm Chicago attracts attention simply by virtue of the highest body count.

Actually Jackson Mississippi has the worst rate at 100 per 100k.

Gary Indiana has a 58 per 100k.

Somewhere there might be a community of small population with a much higher rate.

The bulk of the problem is simply drugs, gangs, turf.
That is certainly much of the problem in Memphis.
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:24 pm Chicago attracts attention simply by virtue of the highest body count.

Actually Jackson Mississippi has the worst rate at 100 per 100k.

Gary Indiana has a 58 per 100k.

Somewhere there might be a community of small population with a much higher rate.

The bulk of the problem is simply drugs, gangs, turf.
the corporate and authority gangs are bad also the lobby gangs and the political ones too. the white supremacist ones as well but they are in all those gangs. the firearm dealer and manufacturing gangs aslo the legislative gangs so many gangs so little turf.
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:24 pm The bulk of the problem is simply drugs, gangs, turf.
The "problem" of Chicago & gun violence I think cannot be that easily oversimplified.

I think there are a few articles here that deal with some of its complexities.

FIRSTHAND: Gun Violence in Chicago
https://www.thetrace.org/projects/firsthand/

Recommended reading.

As to why certain media decide to focus specifically on violence in Chicago, I suspect there are factors in play like, oh, race, liberal city politicians, a mistaken belief it demonstrates why gun control doesn't work, and things like that.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:33 pm The "problem" of Chicago & gun violence I think cannot be that easily oversimplified.

I think there are a few articles here that deal with some of its complexities.

FIRSTHAND: Gun Violence in Chicago
https://www.thetrace.org/projects/firsthand/

Recommended reading.

As to why certain media decide to focus specifically on violence in Chicago, I suspect there are factors in play like, oh, race, liberal city politicians, a mistaken belief it demonstrates why gun control doesn't work, and things like that.
High body count and highly restrictive gun laws does create a conundrum.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:33 pm The "problem" of Chicago & gun violence I think cannot be that easily oversimplified.

I think there are a few articles here that deal with some of its complexities.

FIRSTHAND: Gun Violence in Chicago
https://www.thetrace.org/projects/firsthand/

Recommended reading.

As to why certain media decide to focus specifically on violence in Chicago, I suspect there are factors in play like, oh, race, liberal city politicians, a mistaken belief it demonstrates why gun control doesn't work, and things like that.
Good article that is hard to disagree with.
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:36 pm High body count and highly restrictive gun laws does create o conundrum.
Especially for those who ignore how many guns in Chicago come from neighboring Indiana, which has far less restrictive laws.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:38 pm Especially for those who ignore how many guns in Chicago come from neighboring Indiana, which has far less restrictive laws.
If not from Indiana then from somewhere else. East Chicago and Gary are essentially Chicago neighborhoods.

Bring back stop and frisk. And instead of pleading out possession under a disability to a lesser crime send them away for ten to fifteen years. Make gun crime offenders go away. Novel idea huh.
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:44 pm Bring back stop and frisk. And instead of pleading out possession under a disability to a lesser crime send them away for ten to fifteen years. Make gun crime offenders go away. Novel idea huh.
Thank you for offering your advice. I am not interested in it.

Feel free to write Mayor Lightfoot, though.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:46 pm Thank you for offering your advice. I am not interested in it.

Feel free to write Mayor Lightfoot, though.
So just let gun crime offenders walk the streets? With guns. Not the best idea.
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There's a whole bunch wrong with broken windows policing.

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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:24 pm The bulk of the problem is simply drugs, gangs, turf.
JoeMemphis wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:29 pm That is certainly much of the problem in Memphis.
And you geniuses get this information from...?
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:50 pm So just let gun crime offenders walk the streets? With guns. Not the best idea.
No, if a person commits a crime with a gun, I'm perfectly fine with them being charged with a crime, such as (say) armed robbery. If they committed that crime with an illegal or stolen gun, definitely should be an additional charge just for that. Hopefully that felony on their record prevents future firearm ownership. Saul Goodman.

Stop and Frisk? Don't like it. Here's some reasons.
https://civilrights.org/edfund/resource ... itutional/
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:44 pm Bring back stop and frisk.
Stop and frisk belongs in the Bell Curve/Manhattan Institute trash heap it came from.
Novel idea huh.
About as novel as the slave patrols the cops came from, sure.

It makes dumb conservative whites feel good to mouth the words "stop and frisk," but like most of the crap you guys invent, Stop and Frisk is unconstitutional.

Perhaps you've heard of the 4th Amendment, though it is useful to remember that conservative whites do tend to think of yourselves as citizens and the rest of us as second-class citizens.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 8:37 pm Good article that is hard to disagree with.
"Chicago" is a euphemism" for "those niggers" for you and the rest of these cons around here.

Always has been, since "gangster" went from meaning "white ethnic criminals" to "the blacks and the mexicans."
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:10 pm Stop and frisk belongs in the Bell Curve/Manhattan Institute trash heap it came from.



About as novel as the slave patrols the cops came from, sure.

It makes dumb conservative whites feel good to mouth the words "stop and frisk," but like most of the crap you guys invent, Stop and Frisk is unconstitutional.

Perhaps you've heard of the 4th Amendment, though it is useful to remember that conservative whites do tend to think of yourselves as citizens and the rest of us as second-class citizens.
Stop and frisk spoken by someone who would never have it happen to them, and not because they are above suspicion, but for of the complexion for the protection for the collection. (Paul Mooney)


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