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Another violent white man from a conservative family is targeting one of my communities for mass-murder, again.

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carmenjonze wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:03 pm Another violent white man from a conservative family is targeting one of my communities for mass-murder, again.

We are on our own.
I wonder why the perp was let off off the bomb charges not so long ago.
I hope the investigation answers that question. Because this guy should have been in prison.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:45 pm I wonder why the perp was let off off the bomb charges …
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Protect yourself against these conservative white men.

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One of the 2 people at Club Q who subdued the mass shooter in Colorado Springs took his own gun from him and beat him with it.

[LINK: Two patrons confronted the man who opened fire at an LGBTQ club in Colorado Springs - NPR]

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Glennfs wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:45 pm I wonder why the perp was let off off the bomb charges not so long ago.
I hope the investigation answers that question. Because this guy should have been in prison.
Hey how come you hate California so much? It doesn't make sense. There are soooo many other confederates here. Randy Voepel is this a-hole's grandfather.

Randy Voepel - Wiki
In 1996, Voepel became a member of the Santee City Council. In 2000, Voepel became the Mayor of Santee until 2016.

On November 8, 2016, Voepel easily won the election and became a Republican member of California State Assembly for District 71, encompassing most of inland San Diego County and part of Riverside County.

In 2022, redistricting placed him into a new district with another member of the state Assembly, Marie Waldron. Voepel lost by a wide margin.

Political views

A Republican, Voepel at one point aligned himself with the Tea Party movement, saying that the Republican Party was too liberal. Following the 2021 United States Capitol attack, Voepel said, "This is Lexington and Concord. First shots fired against tyranny. Tyranny will follow in the aftermath of the Biden swear in on January 20th."
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carmenjonze wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:52 pm Hey how come you hate California so much? It doesn't make sense. There are soooo many other confederates here. Randy Voepel is this a-hole's grandfather.

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We have an economy so big and successful that cons cant comprehend it. We pay for most of what he has in his state, his roads and everything are paid for by Californians. Most red states have nothing without CA.


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Glennfs wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:45 pm I wonder why the perp was let off off the bomb charges not so long ago.
I hope the investigation answers that question. Because this guy should have been in prison.
Straight white Christian male conservatism is a centuries-old festering sewer of anti-queer, anti-trans hate.

The women who make the unfortunate choice to associate with and uphold this violent corruption are often even more extreme than the men, except for the men will kill. The women sew the white sheets and cheer them on.

You even put people in office to make anti-queer, anti-trans laws on your behalf.

Chasten Buttigieg tells Boebert to ‘Get off Twitter’ after Colorado shooting - The Hill
Boebert acknowledged the shooting in her home state shortly after news broke and called for an end to the violence.

“The news out of Colorado Springs is absolutely awful,” she tweeted on Sunday morning. “This morning the victims & their families are in my prayers. This lawless violence needs to end and end quickly.”

Chasten Buttigieg tweeted in response, “You encourage this type of hatred. Get off Twitter and start looking inward.”

In a separate tweet, Buttigieg directly linked the GOP to violent rhetoric against the LGBTQ community.
Other Democrats joined Chasten in accusing Boebert of hypocrisy, including Rep.-elect Robert Garcia (D-Calif.), the first openly LGBTQ+ immigrant elected to Congress.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:45 pm I wonder why the perp was let off off the bomb charges not so long ago.
I hope the investigation answers that question. Because this guy should have been in prison.
On the press conference they seemed to have tried to keep off that subject and when and where the ar-15 type weapon, ammo-clips, and body armor were purchased, Seemed mostly to want to want the focus on heroes and the victims.

Colorado Springs shooting live updates: Suspect faces 5 counts of murder, hate crimes
....The Associated Press reported the shooter used an AR-15-style semiautomatic weapon and that a handgun and additional ammunition magazines also were found at the crime scene....
...Daughter Kassy broke a knee scrambling for cover, Richard injured his hands and legs, their best friends were hit by multiple shots and she herself was bruised during the chaotic moments at Club Q late Saturday, Jessica Fierro said.

"NO ONE should ever have to witness bloodshed like this,'' she said......
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Motor City wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:38 pm On the press conference they seemed to have tried to keep off that subject and when and where the ar-15 type weapon, ammo-clips, and body armor were purchased, Seemed mostly to want to want the focus on heroes and the victims.
Yep it's another violent white male from a conservative family.
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carmenjonze wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:52 pm Hey how come you hate California so much? It doesn't make sense. There are soooo many other confederates here. Randy Voepel is this a-hole's grandfather.

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I don't think a politician in California would have any pull in Colorado. But, so far that is about the only reason we have.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:06 am I don't think a politician in California would have any pull in Colorado.
Never said they did.

The recurring question you keep avoiding is why you guys have such irrational hatred California so much. It's unwarranted.

There are plenty MAGA cultists, QAnon freaks, and white supremacist hate groups, here. Plus we gave you Nixon and Reagan (R - Corrupt), 2/3 of the worst presidents in modern history. You don't have anything to complain about.
... that is about the only reason we have ...
Hm, THAT word again.

No, "we" don't have anything. YOU have yet another mass-murdering white male to add to your ledger. Congratulations.
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So, I'm still hoping for some clarity on the 2021 incident.

Apparently, despite claiming he was holding his Mom hostage, he was at a different location and she wasn't even there, although he had threatened her.

When police surrounded that location, he yelled out that he had several weapons and a bomb he was going to set off. We know the latter wasn't true, and ... it's unclear about the former. He did surrender without exchange of fire.

Why no charges? The Mom may not have pressed charges, but I'm not sure that would have been necessary. The weird thing is she doesn't seem to be cooperating with this 2022 investigation either. I get unconditional love for your son and all that, but come on momma.

Nice family.

The guy was stopped by a military veteran, who KO'd him with his own gun. Nice work. Then a drag queen stepped on him with high heels. Good show.

Anyway, the guy's facing 5 counts of 1st deg. murder and hate crimes. Plus the 19 attempted murders. I am usually a death penalty opponent, but mass murder is one area where my hesitancy wanes. If nothing else, he's looking forward to life in prison, and that works for me.
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Chesapeake Walmart shooting: Multiple fatalities, injuries

CHESAPEAKE, Va. (WAVY) — Chesapeake police say the suspect behind a mass shooting at a Walmart just off Battlefield Blvd. is dead.

It’s still unclear just how many people were killed or injured in the shooting, but police say there were multiple of both found inside the building, where the shooting occurred. One person was deceased outside the front entrance.

https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/ch ... e-walmart/
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To stop the mass shootings, instead of not selling high velocity rifles and high capacity magazines to anyone who wants to buy them and commit a mass shooting, they instead rely on someone maybe possibly at the shooting to maybe possibly stop them if things work out that way and they aren't frightened or confused or physically unable. It seems like a really bad choice that ensures the worst outcomes.

Police say LGBTQ club shooter used 'long rifle' and acted alone: What we know about the attacker and Colorado gun laws
El Paso County joined nearly 2,000 counties nationwide in declaring themselves “Second Amendment Sanctuaries" to protect the constitutional right to bear arms and passed a 2019 resolution that says the red flag law “infringes upon the inalienable rights of law-abiding citizens” by ordering police to “forcibly enter premises and seize a citizen’s property with no evidence of a crime.”
Red flag laws are just a band aid approach anyways, only as accurate as authorities are honest and forthright, instead of hoping to maybe have an Iraq war veteran be in the area and then stop the shooter just don't sell those type of weapons and mass shooter supplies like high-capacity ammo clips to the public. Why put the public through all that death and horror with someone having to fight a person armed with an ar-15 type weapon when you could have stopped it by not selling those weapons to the public in the first place?
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What I'm worried about is with Black Friday coming up some nut with an assault rifle will open fire on people inside or waiting to get into a crowded store.
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Our hearts break with the community of Chesapeake this morning. I remain in contact with law enforcement officials throughout this morning and have made available any resources as this investigation moves forward. Heinous acts of violence have no place in our communities.

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2nd mass shooting in a week.

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An employee, possible manager, mass-murders workers.

Virginia Walmart shooting updates: 7 people dead, including gunman - ABC News
A law enforcement source told ABC News that "preliminary info is it was an employee, possible manager, went in break room and shot other employees, and himself."
Briana Tyler, an employee at the Walmart in Chesapeake, told ABC News that she and her coworkers were gathered in the break room at the start of their shifts when the shooting happened.

"I looked up and my manager just opened the door and he just opened fire," Tyler recalled during an interview Wednesday on "Good Morning America."

"He wasn't aiming at anybody specifically," she added. ""He just literally started shooting throughout the entire break room and I watched multiple people just drop down to the floor, where they were trying to duck for cover or they were hit."

Tyler told ABC News the gunman looked "directly at" her and fired but "luckily missed" her head by "an inch or two."
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And another


https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/23/us/templ ... index.html

Four people were shot Wednesday night in the parking lot of a strip mall in Temple Hills, Maryland, including three teenagers, according to police.

One teenager is in serious condition, and two other teens and one adult are in stable condition, according to Prince George’s County Police Department spokesperson Emily Austin.

Police said the shooting took place at about 6:25 p.m. in the 2300 block of Iverson St. in Temple Hills.
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2 Essex County Democrats Cheer As NJ Gun Control Bill Advances

ESSEX COUNTY, NJ — New Jersey’s latest proposed gun control law is “reasonable” and “responsible,” according to a pair of lawmakers from Essex County who helped craft it.

A-4769 passed a vote in the New Jersey Assembly by a 42-29-1 vote on Monday. If it becomes law, the bill would expand background checks, add requirements for obtaining a concealed-carry permit, and criminalize carrying a gun in certain areas. The legislation would also require license holders to purchase liability insurance and require training — even for those who already have a permit to carry a handgun. Read More: 'Toughest In The Nation' Gun Measure Could Tighten NJ Concealed Carry

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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:45 am An employee, possible manager, mass-murders workers.

Virginia Walmart shooting updates: 7 people dead, including gunman - ABC News
Wondering if the shooter was sleep deprived from working too many hours and days in a row or was fired or disciplined, and if the workload and staffing levels leading up to the holidays were factors in his breakdown?
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Oklahoma deputy wounded, man killed in Thanksgiving shooting

BUFFALO, Okla. (AP) — A 30-year-old man was killed and an Oklahoma sheriff's deputy was wounded during a Thanksgiving morning shooting in the northwest of the state, authorities said.

The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation said it's investigating the shooting in Buffalo between sheriff's deputies and a man who had attempted to enter a building with a shotgun and later opened fire on the deputies.

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Walmart shooting
..........“I don’t think he had many people to fall back on in his personal life,” said Nathan Sinclair, who worked at the Walmart for nearly a year before leaving earlier this month.

During chats among coworkers, “We would be like ‘work is consuming my life.’ And (Bing) would be like, ‘Yeah, I don’t have a social life anyway,’” Sinclair recalled Thursday..........
....Strausburg thought Bing’s grumpiness was due to the stresses that come with any job. He also once told her that he had “had anger issues” and complained he was going to “get the managers in trouble.”.....
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Mass murdering of human beings is so common now. It's like hearing a report on graffiti or something.

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Motor City wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:55 pm Wondering if the shooter was sleep deprived from working too many hours and days in a row or was fired or disciplined, and if the workload and staffing levels leading up to the holidays were factors in his breakdown?
Sounds more like he had some problems and became paranoid.
Former co-workers said the overnight team at the store had formed a close relationship but also recalled that Mr. Bing, as a supervisor, displayed some off-putting behavior. One former employee said that he could be aggressive. Another described him as “a loner.”

Shaundrayia Reese, 27, who had worked on the overnight crew, said that some on the team “did complain to the managers about Andre’s behavior.”

The note attributed to the gunman by the police indicated a belief that at least one of his co-workers had been “trying to get rid of me since day one” and that his phone had been “hacked,” and said that he planned to act in response. The note included several references to God, the Holy Spirit and Satan and suggested that Mr. Bing had been concerned about having “social deficits” since he was a child.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/25/us/w ... -note.html
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Number6 wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:26 pm Sounds more like he had some problems and became paranoid.
That sounds consistent with being overworked and robbed of sleep though. Of course you will have problems as a shift manager overnight and especially with the way staffing, hours and workloads are being distributed, there will be friction because of understaffing and workload and all sorts of other reasons between employees and that it was leading up to the holidays.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/walmar ... m that day
....A Walmart supervisor who killed six co-workers at a store in Virginia on Tuesday bought a handgun the day of the shooting and left a rambling note on his cellphone in which he railed against other employees who he felt had mocked and betrayed him....

"The gun was legally purchased from a local store on the morning of Tuesday Nov. 22. He had no criminal history," the city said in a statement on Friday......

In his note, Bing made reference to an unspecified work failure on his part and perceived slights from co-workers, who he felt were mocking him. He said he believed his phone had been hacked and "was giving the worst feeling imaginable."

"The associates gave me evil twisted grins, mocked me and celebrated my down fall the last day," he wrote. "That's why they suffer the same fate as me.".....
If the workplace was too much like a sweatshop and people are suffering abuse and dealing with their problems with little or no sleep or time, the reasoning skills deteriorating, it could lead to things like this.
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