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Number6 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 4:38 pm What do you expect from a country where it's so easy to buy a gun and where politicians espouse using your Second Amendment rights when things don't go your way.
yea exactly, it multiplies instead of reduces. Cause violence begets violence and runs in cycles and one upmanship competitions and is when put to its most extreme, a source of endless business and profiteering.


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At least 11 hurt in South Carolina beach town shooting

LITTLE RIVER, S.C. (AP) — At least 11 people were taken to hospitals after a shooting Sunday night in a South Carolina beach town, authorities said.

Horry County Police did not give the conditions of anyone hurt or detail how they were injured in the incident, which happened about 9:30 p.m. in Little River.

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5 shot, 1 fatally, in gunfight at outdoor gathering in Virginia, say police

At least five people were shot, one fatally, early Sunday when a gunfight erupted between two groups of people at a large outdoor gathering in Danville, Virginia, police said.

The shooting occurred at around 1:30 a.m. on private property in the town near the North Carolina border, the Danville Police Department said in a statement.

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2 killed, including officer, in California shooting, sheriff says

Two Southern California police officers were shot, one fatally, when they were ambushed Saturday night and got into a gunfight with a suspect shortly after he allegedly killed a man, police said.

The shooting occurred at around 7:12 p.m. Pacific time in the Los Angeles County city of Baldwin Park after two police officers responded to a reports of a man firing a rifle in a residential neighborhood, according to a statement released Sunday by the city of Baldwin Park.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/2-killed-incl ... =122391102
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Mass shooting investigation underway near Hickory, at least 12 victims confirmed

HICKORY, N.C. — One person is dead and 11 others were hurt in a mass shooting early Sunday morning near Hickory, the Catawba County Sheriff's Office said.

The deadly shooting happened at around 12:45 a.m. Sunday morning. Authorities found 12 gunshot victims at 1125 Walnut Acres Drive in the Mountain View area of southwest Catawba County.

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2 dead in Las Vegas Strip shooting; 1 arrested after online argument, police say

LAS VEGAS -- Two people were killed in a shooting on the Las Vegas Strip late on Sunday, police said, adding that it appeared to be a targeted killing that followed an online argument.

Manuel Ruiz, 41, turned himself in to police in Henderson, Nevada Monday morning, Las Vegas police said.

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Sources say two Minnesota lawmakers have been shot

Sources have told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS’ Tom Hauser that two Minnesota Lawmakers have been shot.

Minnesota state senator John Hoffman in Champlin and Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman in Brooklyn Park were reportedly shot in their homes by a gunman impersonating a police officer.

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/sou ... been-shot/
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ap215 wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 8:28 am Sources say two Minnesota lawmakers have been shot

Sources have told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS’ Tom Hauser that two Minnesota Lawmakers have been shot.

Minnesota state senator John Hoffman in Champlin and Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman in Brooklyn Park were reportedly shot in their homes by a gunman impersonating a police officer.

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/sou ... been-shot/
BOLO: White, medium build, brown hair. The suspect was last seen wearing a black vest, blue pants, blue shirt resembling a police officers uniform.

All but the St. Paul No Kings demonstrations were cancelled because of it. The shelter in place is still on (we are right on the border of that zone.) and everyone has been informed to not answer the door if it's just one officer. Any police officers coming to your door during the search will come in pairs of two.
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That was quick...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota-ma ... 53861.html
Officials tell the AP they are searching for a 57-year-old man in shooting 2 Minnesota lawmakers
Police were searching for the gunman responsible for the attacks on the Democratic legislators. Writings found inside a fake police car recovered at one of the shooting scenes mentioned the names of multiple lawmakers and other officials, Brooklyn Park Police Chief Mark Bruley said.

Two people familiar with the matter identified the suspect being sought as 57-year-old Vance Boelter. The people could not publicly discuss details of the ongoing investigation and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.
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If rumors are true the suspect, Vance Boelter, worked on advisory boards for both Mark Dayton and Tim Walz.

The reason for No King shut downs was because they found No Kings flyers in the suspects fake cop car.
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Rumor now has it there's a second individual involved who may have helped the shooter escape.
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bradman wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:58 pm If rumors are true the suspect, Vance Boelter, worked on advisory boards for both Mark Dayton and Tim Walz.

The reason for No King shut downs was because they found No Kings flyers in the suspects fake cop car.
I was watching one report where the news anchor asked the reporter besides all the emergency vehicles in the area if they were seeing helicopters and they said no, no helicopters or drones were visible in the skies and that seemed kind of weird considering all the helicopters and drones over the protests but after state representatives are gunned down it was as if they werent really looking for anyone in the area.

from wikipedia:
....Boelter is a career businessman who had worked in the food service and security industries. He was appointed to the Governor’s Workforce Development Board, a sixty-member unpaid advisory board, in 2016 by then-governor of Minnesota Mark Dayton, and reappointed for a four-year term in 2019 by the current governor, Tim Walz.[12]

Boelter serves as the director of security patrol for a private security company called Praetorian Guard Security Services.[13] Prior to that he reportedly worked for several large corporations, and ran a company called Red Lion Group in the Democratic Republic of Congo. He also ran a non-profit called Revoformation Ministries where he reportedly "sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn’t the answer".[14] According to Revoformation Ministries, he was ordained a clergyman in 1993.[12]..
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Motor City wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:51 pm I was watching one report where the news anchor asked the reporter besides all the emergency vehicles in the area if they were seeing helicopters and they said no, no helicopters or drones were visible in the skies and that seemed kind of weird considering all the helicopters and drones over the protests but after state representatives are gunned down it was as if they werent really looking for anyone in the area.

from wikipedia:
Took me a bit to find the link....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shoo ... egislators

This is usually where the two of us get lost....
kind of weird considering all the helicopters and drones over the protests
Is it really that weird?

Of course they are going to monitor pre planned demonstrations that have turned violent in the past. On the other hand...it takes time to deploy helicopters and drones in an emergency situation. And are we sure law enforcement hasn't used helicopters and drones in search for one man and now maybe two?
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bradman wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 8:26 pm Took me a bit to find the link....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shoo ... egislators

This is usually where the two of us get lost....



Is it really that weird?

Of course they are going to monitor pre planned demonstrations that have turned violent in the past. On the other hand...it takes time to deploy helicopters and drones in an emergency situation. And are we sure law enforcement hasn't used helicopters and drones in search for one man and now maybe two?
Well I don't know that's what the reporter said who was in the immediate area. Wonder if the shooter is a member of the local chamber of commerce or something. It sure is sad and terrible and all the while all day long trump is glorifying violence and in LA the authorities trying to provoke it.
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'Everyone's on edge': Search for Minnesota attack suspect intensifies.
.....Boelter is also listed on a website of a company called Praetorian Guard Security Services, which lists him as director of security patrols. The website describes him as involved with “security situations” overseas, including Africa, Eastern Europe and the Middle East.

Praetorian Guard Security Services, a residential armed home security company in the Minneapolis-St. Paul metropolitan area, listed Boelter as director of security patrols for the company, according to its website.

The company offered licensed armed security patrols, uniformed security and event security, with the latter service coming soon.

“We drive the same make and model of vehicles that many police departments use in the U.S.,” the website said. “Currently we drive Ford Explorer Utility Vehicles.”

In 2019, Walz named Boelter and dozens of others to his Governor’s Workforce Development Board, which according to the governor's website assists the governor in "developing, implementing, and modifying the state plan, review of statewide policies and programs, providing recommendations on actions to align and improve the workforce development system and programs," and other state matters.....
Another lesson on bi-partisanship that consists of leaning and pushing legislation, boards, policies more towards authoritarianism and right wing extremisms than the needs of the public or justice.
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bradman wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:28 pm That was quick...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/minnesota-ma ... 53861.html
Officials tell the AP they are searching for a 57-year-old man in shooting 2 Minnesota lawmakers
is this even making the news im not watching?? im reading a bunch but dont see much coverage of this
deadly shooting that KILLED dem pols....WTF.
Who are these..flag-sucking halfwits fleeced fooled by stupid little rich kids They speak for all that is cruel stupid They are racists hate mongers I piss down the throats of these Nazis Im too old to worry whether they like it. Fuck them.
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Yes, it's on the nooz, but it's being overshadowed by the worst Middle East war in decades.
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Was Vance Boelter residing with his wife before Minnesota shooting? Jenny held with gun, ammo, cash and passports

The wife of a man accused of killing a Democratic congressman and her husband was taken into custody during a traffic check after police found a gun, ammo, cash, and passports in the trunk of her vehicle.

In Onamia, Minnesota, cops halted Jenny Boelter at around 10 a.m. on Saturday, according to local news KTSP. However, it was unclear if the stop was a regular stop or a premeditated raid by law enforcement as part of their efforts to find Vance Luther Boelter, 57, who is suspected of murder

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Man accused of killing Minnesota lawmaker arrested

The man accused of killing a lawmaker and her husband and wounding another lawmaker and his wife has been arrested.

KARE 11 confirmed through sources 57-year-old Vance Boelter has been arrested alive near his home in Sibley County where the search concentrated Sunday.

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/loc ... 11ce7c2883
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https://www.kttc.com/2025/06/16/court-d ... lawmakers/
Court documents reveal details of initial police response in shooting of two MN lawmakers
According to the Associated Press, Boelter was found in the woods near his home in Green Isle.

The Faribault Police Department say one of its drones, deployed by the South Metro SWAT team, aided in successfully locating Boelter.

“Working in tandem with another drone team, the Faribault drone and its operator successfully located Boelter,” the police department said on Facebook. “The drones maintained their position overhead, providing critical intelligence until responding SWAT teams could apprehend Boelter without incident.

Boelter is now in custody and is expected to appear in court Monday morning.
Once the Brooklyn Park police learned about the shooting in Champlin, officers were proactively sent to patrol the home of Speaker Emerita and DFL Leader Hortman and her family.

When officers arrived around 3:35 a.m. the Ford SUV with police-style lights was parked in the driveway and officers reportedly witnessed Boelter allegedly shoot the Speaker’s husband, Mark.

The complaint says police exchanged gunfire with Boelter before he fled inside the residence and escaped the area. Inside the home, both Speaker Hortman and her husband had been found dead.

Upon searching the Ford SUV, officers found three AK-47 assault rifles, a 9mm handgun, as well as a list of names and addresses of other public officials.
Unfortunately they didn't arrive in time but they did stop him from carrying out his desire to finish his hitlist.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/43-hours-4-v ... 42191.html
A sergeant’s intuition yielded early leads
Amid the exchange of gunfire, the impersonator retreated into the home, past Mark Hortman, the speaker’s husband, who had been shot multiple times and was just inside the threshold.

The officers pulled Mark Hortman outside and attempted first aid. Despite their efforts, he was pronounced dead soon after.

With the suspect still seemingly inside, officers surrounded the home and called for help. When the SWAT team arrived, police sent a drone into the Hortman home, which is tucked near the end of a suburban street, its back facing the Edinburgh Golf Course.

Video footage from the drone revealed Melissa Hortman – the top Democrat in the state House of Representatives and a mother of two – dead inside.

The suspect was gone, sparking a search that would conclude 43 hours later with his arrest in the woods of Sibley County – and an investigation that would reveal he had also intended to target two other state lawmakers.
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..."a list of names"...

were these local names?...

somehow theyll tie this to biden.
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rainwater wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:45 pm ..."a list of names"...

were these local names?...

somehow theyll tie this to biden.
A couple of notebooks were found in his fake cop car. They had upwards of 40 names listed. Names, locations, and for some an attack plan which leads the authorities to believe he had been stalking them before hand. Most all of them Minnesota Democrats by name.

Of course both right and left went to the spin machine right off the bat.


https://news.yahoo.com/minnesota-shooti ... 00952.html
How Minnesota shooting conspiracy theories took over social media feeds
“These types of conspiracy theories or disinformation campaigns — they serve political interests,” said Jeffrey Blevins, a professor at the School of Public and International Affairs at the University of Cincinnati.

“Instead of, ‘Look how radicalized my side of the aisle has become’ — oh, no, ‘it’s their side of the aisle that is radicalized, and we don’t have to deal with this now. It’s their fault,’” he said.

Nathan Walter, an associate professor of communications studies at Northwestern University, said online rumors are especially successful if they’re established early in the news cycle, as appeared to happen in Minnesota’s news vacuum.

“There’s this rush to create the first narrative, and this is really crucial if you want to spread misinformation. And it’s not very difficult, because it will always take more time for the real information to come out,” he said.

“Once the narrative takes hold, it’s very, very difficult to debunk,” he said.
We are now 4 days into the investigation and the picture is becoming a bit more clear. A clear picture of the motive will take more time. So, it can't really be said for sure but it looks like he was one of theirs. But to say it for certain will take more time.
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"Outstanding Leader": Minnesota Mourns Assassinated Lawmaker Melissa Hortman as Suspect Is Arrested



Minnesota House of Representatives

Members, 2025–2027

The 94th Minnesota Legislature began on January 14, 2025. For each major party, 67 representatives were elected, the second ever tie in the Minnesota House.[8] After the election of Curtis Johnson (District 40B) was nullified in court,[6] the session began with 67 Republican members, while the 66 elected DFL members sat out in an effort to deny quorum.[9] On March 11, 2025, David Gottfried (DFL) was elected to the seat, restoring the 67-67 tie.[10] After Gottfried was seated, Melissa Hortman was granted the title "DFL Leader" instead of "Minority Leader", and the two parties entered into a power-sharing agreement.[11]
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