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5 wounded, suspect in custody after reported St. Louis school shooting | LIVE

ST. LOUIS -- At least six people, including the alleged suspect, were injured in a reported shooting at a St. Louis high school Monday morning.

Saint Louis Public Schools initially said two students were injured in the incident.

https://abc7ny.com/st-louis-school-shoo ... /12370277/
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ap215 wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:42 am 5 wounded, suspect in custody after reported St. Louis school shooting | LIVE

ST. LOUIS -- At least six people, including the alleged suspect, were injured in a reported shooting at a St. Louis high school Monday morning.

Saint Louis Public Schools initially said two students were injured in the incident.

https://abc7ny.com/st-louis-school-shoo ... /12370277/
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Gunmen attack major Shiite holy site in Iran, killing 15

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Gunmen attacked a major Shiite holy site in Iran on Wednesday, killing at least 15 people and wounding dozens. The attack came as protesters elsewhere in Iran marked a symbolic 40 days since a woman’s death in custody ignited the biggest anti-government movement in over a decade.

State TV blamed the attack on “takfiris,” a term that refers to Sunni Muslim extremists who have targeted the country’s Shiite majority in the past. The attack appeared to be unrelated to the demonstrations.

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I know I'll surprise nobody here when I point out the St. Louis shooter had an AR-15 style weapon and 600 rounds of ammo.

Managed to acquire all this "legally" at the tender age of 19.

In a fortunate but rare occurrence, he WAS stopped quickly. That's good as he practically had enough ammo to take down the entire school. :|

He did kill 2 people, including a teacher, and wounded several others. Went to the same school he shot up - natch.

Yes, he was A-A, so I notice the discussion about him being a loner and mentally ill and bullied didn't start right away. :|
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ProfX wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:27 pm I know I'll surprise nobody here when I point out the St. Louis shooter had an AR-15 style weapon and 600 rounds of ammo.

Managed to acquire all this "legally" at the tender age of 19.

In a fortunate but rare occurrence, he WAS stopped quickly. That's good as he practically had enough ammo to take down the entire school. :|

He did kill 2 people, including a teacher, and wounded several others. Went to the same school he shot up - natch.

Yes, he was A-A, so I notice the discussion about him being a loner and mentally ill and bullied didn't start right away. :|

As a general rule when a mass killer is African American the press isn't as interested.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:10 pm As a general rule when a mass killer is African American the press isn't as interested.
No, I think that the body count was insufficient to rate higher coverage.

It was covered but just didn't make it to lead off anything.

I mean, it could have been bigger news considering it was someone who wasn't a young, white male.
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1. You have to be 21 to legally buy cigarettes.

2. You have to be 21 to legally buy liquor.

3. But you can legally buy a gun and ammunition when you're 18.

Anyone else see how messed up #3 is?
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:10 pm As a general rule when a mass killer is African American the press isn't as interested.
This is longstanding KKK/White Citizens Council negro crime propaganda.

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Keep in mind that foundational to white supremacism is that African Americans are not just intellectually and socially inferior to whites, we’re also supposedly their moral inferiors.

This is the basis of their freakouts about negro crime.

Glennfs and Greenbutt both express these views, often.

These ideologies serve to rationalize both their lethal, state-based police brutality and their murder murderous vigilante violence like Jan. 6th.
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Number6 wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:28 pm 1. You have to be 21 to legally buy cigarettes.
16 here in Florida, AFAIK. I believe that also applies to vaping and nicotine cartridges, too.

... just like alcohol, though, it takes 5 seconds to go get your older friend to buy them for you if you're 14.
3. But you can legally buy a gun and ammunition when you're 18.

Anyone else see how messed up #3 is?
My position is, if we're not going to ban military style semi-auto "assault weapons" like the AR-15s, we need to age-restrict them. I am OK with a 16 year old having a hunting rifle, if supervised by their parents. No way you should be able to get ARs until 21 -- or maybe 25. (BTW, in a lot of states, you have to be 25 to rent a car in your own name.) Oh, and should be a serious, deep background check. No getting that crap at gun shows without one.

You do not need 600 rounds of ammo for self defense -- maybe from a bunch of "Kill Bill" ninjas :roll: -- nor any hunting expedition I know of, unless you're going for triceratops. Like Chris Rock says, it's an ammo problem. This guy had several high cap mags in a bandolier and more in a bag he was carrying.
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https://twitter.com/thegabhour/status/1 ... 4678534145
Images of the rifle used by the shooter at CVPA
People say he had more than 600 rounds of ammunition
Thats quite a lethal potential to be able to access so easily.

School leader calls for change after school shooting
..."I hope...I beg...that we learn a lesson," Matt Davis, the St. Louis Board of Education president said in the opening statement.

Davis said the district, police and students did everything they could to keep the shooting from getting worse, but it didn't prevent the deaths of 15-year-old Alexzandria Bell and 61-year-old Jean Kuczka.

"One of the hardest things is that people keep saying that the district did everything right...that there really wasn't anything more that we could do," he said.

"...that the training went off as planned...that the students followed how they were trained...that staff followed how they were trained...that our security officers acted with unflinching courage," he said. "The police responded immediately and yet; we're still left with tragedy."...
Went on to say
"I don't know how much firepower it would take to stop that person. You saw the police response. It was massive, it was overwhelming. If you talk to the law enforcement, they don't believe that it is in the best interest of our society to allow people to have these high-powered rifles, especially when they fall into the hands of people that want to do harm. So, I don't know if it would have been different is if this high-powered rifle was not available to this individual. That would have made the difference."
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Toonces wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:41 pm No, I think that the body count was insufficient to rate higher coverage.

It was covered but just didn't make it to lead off anything.

I mean, it could have been bigger news considering it was someone who wasn't a young, white male.
youtube breaks this news conference up about 10 times with commercials, I get the feeling its because someone doesn't want people to hear what is being said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEdlNASuNjw
St. Louis Public Schools update on Monday's mass shooting

Administrators discuss what's being done to help students, staff and families after Monday's mass shooting that killed two and wounded nine others.
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Columbia Study Finds Mass School Shootings Are Not Caused by Mental Illness
Data from Columbia Mass Murder Database reveal psychosis and other serious psychiatric illness absent in the majority of perpetrators
https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/news ... al-illness

A research team at Columbia University Irving Medical Center and the New York State Psychiatric Institute (NYSPI) examining 82 mass murders that occurred at least partially in academic settings throughout the world, found that most mass murderers and mass shooters did not have severe mental illness.

The study, led by Ragy R. Girgis, MD, and Gary Brucato, PhD, associate research scientist, also found that most mass murderers used firearms, and semi- or fully-automatic firearms most commonly. Among incidents of mass school murder not involving firearms, stabbing was the most common method.

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Of the 82 incidents of mass murder involving academic settings:

Nearly half (47.6%) and most involving firearms (63.2%) were U.S.-based
Consistent with previous reports, perpetrators of mass shootings involving academic settings are primarily Caucasian (66.7%) and male (100%)
Severe mental illness (e.g., psychosis) was absent in the majority of perpetrators; when present, psychotic symptoms are more associated with mass murders in academic settings involving means other than firearms.

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It may seem like a crazy country, but I don't think America has more mentally ill people than others in the world. Nor do I think white males are more likely to be such. We need to find answers elsewhere. Of course, availability of weapons for mass murder has to be part of the discussion.

I can't find any cases where someone with a knife killed 20+ people.
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14 hurt, including 3 children, in Chicago Halloween shooting

CHICAGO (AP) — As many as 14 people were injured in a drive-by shooting, including three children, in the city’s Garfield Park neighborhood on Halloween night, Chicago police said.

According to WLS-TV, Chicago Police Superintendent David Brown said there were three juvenile victims: a 3-year-old, an 11-year-old and a teenager who may be 13 years old. The rest of the victims were adults who ranged in age from their 30s to their 50s. Additionally, one person was struck by a car. The Chicago Fire Department said it had sent at least 10 ambulances to the scene.

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Two dead in shooting at Dallas medical examiner's office

Two people are dead in an apparent murder-suicide at the Dallas County medical examiner's office Tuesday afternoon, officials said.

No suspects were being sought, Dallas County Sheriff Marian Brown said at a news conference. She said one of the deceased victims was a county employee; she did not say which.

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Good morning ... such a nice way to start the week ... not.

UVA shooting: 3 killed, 2 wounded and community told to shelter in place with suspect still at large
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shooting-u ... -virginia/

Charlottesville, Virginia — The University of Virginia was locked down and classes were cancelled on Monday morning as police searched for a student in connection with a fatal shooting the previous night. The university's president confirmed in a letter to the community that three people were killed and two others wounded in the shooting on Sunday evening.

The suspect, identified as university student Christopher Darnell Jones Jr. by UVA President Jim Ryan, remained at large.

The warning for students and staff to shelter in place came late Sunday night following after a report of shots being fired on the campus. The university's emergency management issued an alert on Twitter at 10:42 p.m. of an "active attacker firearm."

"There has been a shooting on Culbreth Road and the suspect is at large and considered armed and dangerous," Ryan said in a tweet, asking the university community to "please shelter in place."

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As of last reports, suspect was still at large. Campus locked down.
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ProfX wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:56 am … Christopher Darnell Jones Jr. …
Ah, Black kid.
As of last reports, suspect was still at large.

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He’ll be killed on sight. No cheeseburgers from Burger King for him.

Stay tuned for reports on how many Cs he got on his report card and tales about aggression and predation.

We’re unlikely to hear the but he was a loner/but mental health/but he was bullied narrative.
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He’s in custody

He was a former football player. The three deceased were members of the football team.

Saw reference he is also a national honor society member.
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:17 am He’s in custody

He was a former football player. The three deceased were members of the football team.

Saw reference he is also a national honor society member.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:45 am How long till you start whining about affirmative action?
Madness


Board cons to blame by supporting access to unlimited killing machines.
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Libertas wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:55 am Board cons to blame by supporting access to unlimited killing machines.
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Colorado club shooting updates: Suspect named after 5 dead, more than a dozen injured at LGBTQ nightclub

Five people were killed and more than a dozen others were injured in a shooting at an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado, officials said.

The suspect, identified as 22-year-old Anderson Lee Aldrich, allegedly began shooting as soon as he walked into Club Q in Colorado Springs, Colorado Springs Police Chief Adrian Vasquez told reporters during a news conference Sunday morning.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dead-18-injur ... d=93658669
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Total fucking madness.

If the human race survives the white con racist bigot assholes and gun fanatics will go down as the worst people that ever inhabited the planet.

Regardless of the motive here, can’t happen if we have the same gun laws the rest of the world has.
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