Mass Shootings/Gun Control Reform Thread

[ap215]

Shinzo Abe, former Japan prime minister, shot during speech – report

Japan’s former prime minister Shinzo Abe is in a “state of cardiopulmonary arrest” after collapsing while making a speech, with initial reports saying gunshots had been heard shortly before he fell to the ground.

NHK, Japan’s public broadcaster, said Abe – the country’s longest-serving prime minister until he resigned in 2020 – appeared to be bleeding from the chest after being shot from behind with a shotgun on Friday morning.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... ch-reports

[gounion]

Yeah, only you would believe obvious rhetoric and poor attempts at humor constitute a real threat.

Oh? Same argument could have been made about Highland Park shooter's social media, no? You've made my point.

And why don't you try to make the case that Eric Greitens ISN'T mentally unstable. Go ahead. I'll wait.

[gounion]

If you want to discuss policy. Okay. If you want to engage in a pointless conversation about how I may choose to vote in the next election, nobody cares but you. It’s your obcession. Not mine.

Just dealing in reality, which is something you run from. But hey, a man's gotta know his limitations, and you certainly are aware of yours.

[ProfX]

Former PM Abe is dead.

This appears to have been a political assassination.

Explosives were found at the suspect's home. He claims his grudge was more personal than political. Obviously, ... there will be an investigation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62089486

[Bludogdem]

Oh? Same argument could have been made about Highland Park shooter's social media, no? You've made my point.

And why don't you try to make the case that Eric Greitens ISN'T mentally unstable. Go ahead. I'll wait.

Not even close. No one, at least with common sense, sees an over the top in poor taste and rather stupid piece like that as a threat to anyone. It’s responses like yours that make Democrats look whiney and stupid. If you speak about it in public you can expect behind the back eye rolls and face palms. Something spect is a common occurrence with you.

[gounion]

Not even close. No one, at least with common sense, sees an over the top in poor taste and rather stupid piece like that as a threat to anyone. It’s responses like yours that make Democrats look whiney and stupid. If you speak about it in public you can expect behind the back eye rolls and face palms. Something spect is a common occurrence with you.

...and if a "RINO" is shot by someone, you'll be saying "no one could have known such a thing could have happened".

But these are your heroes. A guy who has a history of sexual assault and domestic abuse.

It's not poor taste. It's a call for violence. Yes, it's damned good reason that the state should move to ensure the man has no weapons at all.

But then guys like you would love to see him put his rhetoric into action, wouldn't you?

[carmenjonze]

Yeah, only you would believe obvious rhetoric and poor attempts at humor constitute a real threat.

You would not be so dismissive of this type of call for violence against political opponents were it coming from anyone but a conservative white male.

[carmenjonze]

...and if a "RINO" is shot by someone, you'll be saying "no one could have known such a thing could have happened".

but he was a loner
but mental illness
but he was bullied
but video games
but rap music
but but but

But these are your heroes. A guy who has a history of sexual assault and domestic abuse.

It's not poor taste. It's a call for violence. Yes, it's damned good reason that the state should move to ensure the man has no weapons at all.

But then guys like you would love to see him put his rhetoric into action, wouldn't you?

Political violence like this and threats of it is how conservative whites keep their miserable communities in line.

They do have a nasty history of following through on these death threats.

[carmenjonze]

Not even close. No one, at least with common sense, sees an over the top in poor taste and rather stupid piece like that as a threat to anyone. It’s responses like yours that make Democrats look whiney and stupid. If you speak about it in public you can expect behind the back eye rolls and face palms. Something spect is a common occurrence with you.

Who GAS about that perception, coming from the most insane, delicate snowflakes in this country?

[Motor City]

This is interesting article on how we think about approach mass shootings. Sort of make an idol out of them worship them by making people into heroes or victims and villains, by coming up with slogans, by sweeping condemnation and sweeping commendations and as we do these self serving things for groups and authorities and media and business and politics, we neglect the safety of the public because all that falseness all that fluff is in the way of understanding simple truths that aren't self serving but serve us all.

Covering mass shootings has become routine — and endless. But it doesn't get easier

We’ve got reports of a mass shooting.

Who is working tonight?

How soon can we get to the scene?

How many dead? How many wounded?

Do we have photographers there? Get there.

Report what we know. Confirm. Write it up.

Post the story. Send the alert.

Divide into teams. Victims. Shooter. Community. Gun. Investigation.

How graphic are the photos? Edit the video.

More dead? Update the story.

This is how we cover a mass shooting........

[Bludogdem]

...and if a "RINO" is shot by someone, you'll be saying "no one could have known such a thing could have happened".

But these are your heroes. A guy who has a history of sexual assault and domestic abuse.

It's not poor taste. It's a call for violence. Yes, it's damned good reason that the state should move to ensure the man has no weapons at all.

But then guys like you would love to see him put his rhetoric into action, wouldn't you?

A judge would laff his ass off at you.

[gounion]

A judge would laff his ass off at you.

And you'd laugh if this nutjob killed someone, wouldn't you?

I think this makes my point that you guys don't believe in any red flag laws, not if they pertain to white conservatives males.

[Motor City]

Where does the fear trauma and anxiety go after a mass shooting? does it dissipate into the air, it goes to live in the city in the country it goes everywhere people are. We really dont have the luxury of stewing in mass shootings the way we are, we really don't have the luxury of stewing in the incrementalism that keeps weapons of war available for purchase to accommodate the mass shootings.

'Every crowd, everywhere': Fear follows witnesses of mass shootings and radiates across America

Anxiety and post-traumatic stress have followed Tia Christiansen, 53, years after the shooting at a Las Vegas music festival left dozens dead.

Christiansen was in a hotel room at Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in 2017 when a gunman killed 58 people and left hundreds injured. She recalled the loudness and intensity of the gunfire of 1,000 bullets that she heard from just two rooms down from the gunman, who fired from the window into the crowd.

"Some days, it's so top of mind and it's so overwhelming that it's difficult to get out of bed, and some days it's not possible for me to get anything done at all," Christiansen said, who was uninjured in the shooting. "Not even something as simple as the dishes. It's just too much."

Every time there's a mass shooting across the nation, it intensifies Christiansen's fear of being caught in another one.

"It brings it all back in a very palpable way," Christiansen said. "My body hurts. A lot of my PTSD symptoms come back 100-fold. It makes it feel like all the progress that has been made can disappear in a moment or a day."

Research shows that the mental health toll of mass shootings extends far beyond survivors and witnesses. Mass shootings were reported as the most common source of stress among U.S. adults, according to an August 2019 survey conducted by the American Psychological Association.

The 71% stress rate was higher than stress from health care that year at 69%. And nearly one third of the U.S. population feared they could not go out in public without the chance of a mass shooting, according to the survey........

A luxury leveraged against 8 year olds

8-year-old paralyzed after parade shooting regained consciousness, asked for brother and dog, family says

An 8-year-old boy, among the youngest victims injured a Fourth of July parade shooting in Illinois, was hospitalized after a bullet severed his spinal cord.

Now, his family says he is paralyzed from the waist down, but they are relieved that he regained consciousness and spoke.

Cooper Roberts, an active boy who loves sports and the Milwaukee Brewers, always looked forward to going to the Highland Park parade with his parents and twin brother, family spokesperson Tony Loizzi said Thursday at a news conference.

But after a gunman opened fire at the parade Monday, Cooper was left fighting for his life as his family reimagined what life would look like for him when he recovers......

[carmenjonze]

A judge would laff his ass off at you.

WTH do laughing judges have to do with your defense of the most violent people in office?

[ap215]

At least 14 dead in a mass shooting at a bar in Soweto, South Africa

(CNN) At least 14 people were killed and nine more injured in a shooting at a bar in the South African township of Soweto on Sunday, local authorities said.

The incident unfolded shortly after midnight, when a group of men armed with rifles and 9-millimeter pistols entered the bar in the Nomzamo informal settlement near Johannesburg and started shooting "randomly" at the patrons, Gauteng Police said in a statement.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/10/africa/s ... index.html

[Motor City]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3poHE3nOb8

Graphic Content Warning: Hallway footage obtained in Uvalde school shooting | KVUE

Exclusive video from inside Uvalde school shows officers' delayed response to mass shooting

[Motor City]

When do they hear the peoples cries?

Rally at US Capitol pushes for gun control: 'I am unwilling ... to be another thought and prayer'

Kimberly Rubio, whose 10-year-old daughter Lexi was killed during the Uvalde shooting, demanded change, starting with getting rid of assault weapons. People in the crowd could be heard crying as Rubio said her daughter's death could have been prevented if assault weapons were banned.

“If there is one question that should be on the forefront of (law enforcement) minds, what if the gunman never had access to an assault weapon?” Rubio said to the crowd.

Cries of grief and frustration rang out through the crowd as attendees wiped away tears with the fabric of their bright orange shirts, worn in honor of gun violence awareness. Attendees marched to the exterior of the Capitol Building, chanting phrases like "enough is enough."......

'We must not normalize this': Hundreds attend funeral for Jayland Walker after Akron, Ohio police killing

.....Hundreds of people, including many of Walker’s relatives, passed his open casket during a viewing Wednesday morning at the Akron Civic Theatre, while people driving by outside honked their car horns in sympathy.

People began claiming their seats for the afternoon funeral service at the Akron Civic Theatre more than 90 minutes before it was scheduled to begin. A steady line of people waited to pass through security checks before entering the large, ornate theater.

A few attendees wore shirts that read “Black Lives Matter” or “Zero Threat, Zero Violence, Justice for Jayland.”.....

[Libertas]

Video of Uvalde, cops not wantning anything to do with the gunman.

Why?

Because he had a LEGAL weapon of mass destruction, which only idiots would not want to ban.

All you GUNNERS are guilty of these kids MURDERS

RAGE is what we should FEEL

The sound of children SCREAMING was removed from the video, but you GUNNERS should be FORCED to listen to it

[Libertas]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1547020623850795008


While kids are being slaughtered, he checks his phone and grabs some hand sanitizer.

Even if you excuse the cops, and you cant, the LESSON here is we MUST ban those type weapons.

DUH

[carmenjonze]

CW: This story will make you throw up.

Jayland Walker was shot or grazed by a bullet 46 times in Akron police shooting, medical examiner says - USA Today

Routine traffic stop.

90 rounds fired from the back, hit 46 times, not a lot of exit wounds, too many bullets to tell which one actually killed him because he had so many injuries .

Repeating: routine traffic stop.

This is the current face of "but I feared for my life!" These gang members in uniform are still collecting checks and pensions at the expense of the people of Akron, an old KKK hotbed city in an old KKK hotbed state.

:problem:

Can't reform this.

[Libertas]

MADNESS

and each day the entire thing gets closer to being completely blown all to hell

[Libertas]

https://news3lv.com/news/local/police-s ... etro-lvmpd


I am a fan of

https://youtu.be/ANkKNadCGZo

Daniel Negreanu, one of the greatest poker players alive and a good Canadian liberal, who lives in Vegas, of course.

WSOP tournament was just ending when some big plate glass broke or something, story at link, anyway Daniel and everybody else started running, many injured, etc. Only in Murika, like he says in video.

[Motor City]

Relatives of 20-year-old Jonathan Sapirman have told police he was being evicted from his apartment and had purchased three firearms recently.

....Police said Sapirman fatally shot Victor Gomez, 30, before striking a couple as they ate dinner, identified as Pedro Pineda, 56, and his wife, Rosa Mirian Rivera de Pineda, 37. Two others were injured in the shooting, including a 12-year-old girl......

maybe the reason why the senate congress and presidential administrations dont act to prohibit the weapons of war being for sale to the public that these mass shootings are because of who are disproportionally targeted in them.

.....Sapirman had over 100 rounds on him when he was killed, Ison said. The bullets were purchased at Range USA, the location Sapirman frequented the past two years.

After unleashing carnage, Sapirman tried to retreat back to the bathroom, where he had left two guns and ditched his cellphone in one of the stalls. But, before he could make it back, Ison says Sapirman was shot by Dicken and collapsed to the ground......

[ZoWie]

CW: This story will make you throw up.

Jayland Walker was shot or grazed by a bullet 46 times in Akron police shooting, medical examiner says - USA Today

Routine traffic stop.

90 rounds fired from the back, hit 46 times, not a lot of exit wounds, too many bullets to tell which one actually killed him because he had so many injuries .

Repeating: routine traffic stop.

This is the current face of "but I feared for my life!" These gang members in uniform are still collecting checks and pensions at the expense of the people of Akron, an old KKK hotbed city in an old KKK hotbed state.

:problem:

Can't reform this.

I was in Akron when I was like 9 years old. It was still the classic US industrial city, where they made tires for Detroit cars. It had the rich white owner class up in Goodyear Heights, and the workers, including many people of color, in the ultra-polluted East Akron neighborhood where the tire factories were.

Having never been far from where the only factories made movies, it was quite the revelation for me. My parents explained it to me the best they could, but mostly I remember that it was not a happy place.

The infamous Cuyahoga River, the one that caught fire, runs right through Akron. I never forgot the thing. It was still full of oil slicks, dead animals, rotting garbage, sewage, used rubbers, drug paraphernalia, and various foul-smelling materials that you didn't want to know anything about. I understand they've cleaned it up since. I sure hope so.

The cops were there to keep the poor and Black in their place. They were armed and dangerous. One was advised to have as little to do with them as possible if you knew what was good for you.

Apparently any changes to this arrangement have been for the worse. Keep the racial situation, keep the slums, keep the classism, close the factories, and add high unemployment to the toxic brew. Poor Midwest.

[Libertas]

i.e. not much has changed in Ohio...