Mass Shootings/Gun Control Reform Thread

[ap215]

Joe Biden Trashes Trump, Worries About American Democracy, Talks Gun Violence Response During ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’ Visit – Update

UPDATE, 9:05 PM PT: The Boston Celtics are now ahead 2-1 in their NBA Finals series against the Golden State Warriors after tonight’s win at home, but the biggest player around was actually out on the West Coast on Wednesday.

In his first live in-studio appearance since taking off last year in the midst of a global pandemic, President Joe Biden sat down today in the City of Angels with Jimmy Kimmel. Watch the full nearly 24-minute interview above.

https://deadline.com/2022/06/donald-tru ... 235041218/

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3 dead, 1 injured in shooting at Maryland factory: Sheriff

Three people are dead and one critically injured after a shooting at a factory in Smithsburg, Maryland, Thursday afternoon, authorities said.

The alleged gunman was wounded in an ensuing shootout with state police, authorities said.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/ ... d=85030674

[Motor City]

Police: Man in custody after threatening to injure, kill people at Plymouth business

Police issued a shelter-in-place notice for some Plymouth residents Friday afternoon following a threat directed at an area business.

The issue has since been resolved and the shelter-in-place notice has been lifted. Police asked residents who live on or near the area of Karmada Street and Farmer Street to stay inside their homes.

Police were investigating the threat in the 600 block of Junction Street on Friday when they heard gunshots. The threats came in the form of email and were targeted toward a business in that block The threat was addressed to the owner and the city manager.

The suspect said he doesn’t believe the business is following zoning ordinances and is operating illegally, according to police. He said he felt he needed to take action to shut the business down and said he would use a shotgun and an AR-15. Police said he threatened to hurt and kill people.

While officers were at the business they said they heard three to four gunshots coming from the suspect’s residence on Karmada Street. Officers set up a perimeter and worked with the Plymouth Township and Canton Township police........

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Court upholds NY attorney general's case against the NRA after the gun group claimed the lawsuit was politically biased

In a legal loss for the NRA and its newly re-elected leader, a Manhattan judge on Friday rejected the gun group's bid to quash a lawsuit that seeks to install an independent monitor and oust Wayne LaPierre from its helm.

The decision by New York State Supreme Court Justice Joel Cohen allows a lawsuit by New York Attorney General Letitia James to move forward by rejecting the NRA's claim that she pursued the gun group solely out of political bias.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/court ... li=BBnb7Kz

[bradman]

He's grasping at straws now.......

https://www.yahoo.com/news/uvaldes-scho ... 35871.html

In a phone interview with the Texas Tribune, Arredondo said he left two radios outside the school because he believed they would have slowed him down and that every second mattered.

One radio had a clip that may have fallen off his tactical belt, while another had an antenna that would have hit him as he ran, he told the Tribune.

However, the radios would have connected him to the campus and police networks, according to the outlet.

Arredondo said he also wanted both hands free to hold his gun so he could fire it more accurately.

Arredondo added that based on his prior experience, the radios didn't work well in some of the school buildings, and that he would have turned them off in the hallways to avoid being detected by the gunman.

A radio is a vital part of your tactical gear.

[ZoWie]

A radio is a vital part of your tactical gear, and if you're a cop on an operation a voice-activated speaker-mike clipped to your collar is a vital part of your radio. Or hell, use a cell phone with a Bluetooth headset. Cops do that all the time.

That's a pretty lame excuse and not worthy of any cop with any decent training. It's clear that these guys just aren't very good cops.

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Protesters pledge to fight for gun reform as long as necessary at DC rally

Thousands of protesters gathered on the National Mall Saturday to demonstrate against gun violence in a March for Our Lives rally, vowing to continue to push for gun reform as long as necessary to achieve progress.

The rally was one of more than 450 protests taking place around the country and the world in the aftermath of multiple high-profile mass shootings over the past month. Speakers at the Washington, D.C., rally called on political leaders to act on gun legislation to save lives and ensure these incidents become much less frequent.

https://thehill.com/news/state-watch/35 ... necessary/

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Senate negotiators announce framework deal on bipartisan gun package

WASHINGTON — Key senators announced a framework agreement on new gun legislation Sunday, marking a breakthrough on a collection of measures to combat gun violence, including "red flag" laws and enhanced background checks on gun buyers.

The chief negotiators of the deal are Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., an outspoken proponent of gun safety laws, and Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a firm Second Amendment advocate who has promised the new measures won’t affect the gun rights of law-abiding Americans. The final bill hasn't been written yet, sources familiar with the negotiations said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... -rcna33128

[Libertas]

Senate negotiators announce framework deal on bipartisan gun package

WASHINGTON — Key senators announced a framework agreement on new gun legislation Sunday, marking a breakthrough on a collection of measures to combat gun violence, including "red flag" laws and enhanced background checks on gun buyers.

The chief negotiators of the deal are Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., an outspoken proponent of gun safety laws, and Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a firm Second Amendment advocate who has promised the new measures won’t affect the gun rights of law-abiding Americans. The final bill hasn't been written yet, sources familiar with the negotiations said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... -rcna33128

Not much to see here, GOP made it clear there will be NO action whatsoever that will accomplish ANYTHING but willing to do crap like this etc
And if the DNC doesnt take them up on this crap THEY are blamed.

BROKEN COUNTRY

[bradman]

Now ya got me wondering.

After checking a bit.

From what i've been told, not only is the radio a part of tactical gear.........Apparently your personal cell phone also links you into the loop and has become somewhat as vital as the radio.


So, he was without a radio. Did he have a cell phone? If he did, was it the right form of communication given the circumstance?

Instead of being in direct communication, i'd hate to think he was thumb flipping instead.

[Motor City]

Not much to see here, GOP made it clear there will be NO action whatsoever that will accomplish ANYTHING but willing to do crap like this etc
And if the DNC doesnt take them up on this crap THEY are blamed.

BROKEN COUNTRY

They are looking for a bargain. They are bargainers bargaining. America is some children hating people too bad kids are not oil companies or defense contractors or supreme court members or corporate business people.

Warren police find house full of bombs, ammo and guns after explosion

Warren police said they found multiple bombs, thousands of rounds of ammunition, and weapons inside a house that was tore apart by an explosion this weekend.

A 38-year-old man was critically injured in the explosion and remained hospitalized Sunday, Police Commissioner William Dwyer said. The man lost both of his arms in the explosion and was in a coma, Dwyer said.....

https://www.wxyz.com/news/weapons-explo ... -explosion

.....A search warrant was executed on Saturday and police recovered a dozen firearms, including handguns and rifles, as well as, loaded AR-style magazines and about 4,000 rounds of ammunition, Dwyer said.....

[ZoWie]

No cop worthy of the name goes into an active shooter situation without reliable instant communication on encrypted frequencies. That's fundamental. These guys weren't good cops.

Even the Russian soldiers in Ukraine who'd been indoctrinated that they'd be welcomed as liberators had $200 Chinese walkie-talkies and insecure cell phones on the enemy's system to supplement their badly designed military tactical radios made by the lowest bidding Chinese contractors with corrupt contracts diverting considerable investment to the oligarchs' offshore accounts.

The Proud Boys had a tactical comm system at the Capitol. I've read the details, and the transcripts of intercepted or decoded comms. Maybe they'll be discussed at one of the hearings to prove they came ready for war, which they did, in a full order of battle with contingencies and marching orders.

No one in their right mind shows up at a mass shooting without tested and working radios. This is craziness of a sort only Americans seem capable of dismissing.

[Motor City]

I remember this show from the 70s or 80s where this guy he would say Boss, the framework the framework is here or was it the plane the plane oh yea it was the plane.

A bi-parisan framwork a bi-partisan framework a bi-partisan framework what does that mean aside from that nothing will fundamentally change for kids who have to accommodate mass shooters in their schools because mass shooters are accommodated by weapons of war being legally and easily available for purchase in the United States?

also accommodated by the congress senate and president by using terms like bi partisan framework to hide the option of fundamentally changing the thing that most endangers them easy legal access to weapons of war. What a terrible and horrid meaning that term a bi-partisan framework takes on YUK

[Motor City]

https://twitter.com/medeabenjamin/statu ... 5159051264

[ZoWie]

Agreed that a "bi-partisan framework" sounds good at election time, but it's only another way of saying, "We're working on it, now stop bothering us." Fancy names for token save-face measures won't provide the social change needed to stop loonies, incels, racists, and other various fringes from amassing arsenals good only for mass murder.

[Libertas]

Agreed that a "bi-partisan framework" sounds good at election time, but it's only another way of saying, "We're working on it, now stop bothering us." Fancy names for token save-face measures won't provide the social change needed to stop loonies, incels, racists, and other various fringes from amassing arsenals good only for mass murder.

If cons agree to it, it cant be any good.

[Motor City]

America is some children hating people

Ohio Gov. signs law to have teachers carry firearms in classrooms with 24 hours of training

The court ruled in a 4-3 decision that Ohio Revised Code required anyone authorized to carry a gun on school grounds to have 20 years of experience or peace officer training. DeWine argued the ruling made firearm training unmanageable for school districts that wanted to permit it.

But some law enforcement disagreed.

"I think it’s a horrible idea to arm our teachers," Columbus Police Chief Elaine Bryant said. "There’s a lot of training that’s involved in that. It's naïve to believe that is something we can put on them and expect them to respond to from a law enforcement perspective."...

No safe place in a school that a teacher could fire a gun without endangering children other teachers or staff. Then there is what could happen if its wrestled away or misplaced or left lying around.

[Libertas]

Cons are traitors



https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/15 ... cQyR5czEIA

GOP Sen. Kevin Cramer with concerns after being briefed on gun violence framework in today’s caucus lunch.

“I think we're more interested in the red wave than we are in red flags, quite honestly,” he said

[Motor City]

Businessman and federal firearm licensee wonder if he was chamber of commerce member

Suspected Alabama church shooter had received warning letter from ATF over missing gun inventory

Smith was charged with capital murder in the shooting at St. Stephen’s Church on Friday. Police said Smith came to a small group event at the church — a senior potluck — and opened fire, killing three: Bart Rainey, Sarah Yeager and Jane Pounds.

Smith’s home in Vestavia Hills is registered with the ATF as the primary address for Original Magazines 2, a business with a federal firearms license. The license is valid until 2025, according to ATF records.

[carmenjonze]

Businessman and federal firearm licensee wonder if he was chamber of commerce member

Suspected Alabama church shooter had received warning letter from ATF over missing gun inventory

Another white-conservative mass murderer in a house of worship.

How depraved does a community have to be to keep churning out these types of males.

[Glennfs]

Another white-conservative mass murderer in a house of worship.

How depraved does a community have to be to keep churning out these types of males.

Why no comments when the shooter isn't white

[Libertas]

Sick, right now there is a country western concert going on in my area and

my grandson is there.

All I can think about is will there be a shooting.

DAMN YOU gunners all to HELL

[carmenjonze]

Why no comments when the shooter isn't white

I comment on all of these men, but what are you so overdefensive about?

[Libertas]

I comment on all of these men, but what are you so overdefensive about?

Of course you do, which is why when con speaks there really is no reason to even read what they say anymore, it is NEVER based in reality.

[carmenjonze]

Of course you do, which is why when con speaks there really is no reason to even read what they say anymore, it is NEVER based in reality.

It doesn’t even make sense.

He’s WAY more offended by something on a message board than yet another man committing yet another mass murder. In a church. Some Christian, he is.