Today in White Nationalism/White Supremacism

[carmenjonze]

Lesa Pamplin for County Criminal Court #5
@LesaPamplin

My Goddaughter is the only black starter for Dukes volleyball team. While playing yesterday, she was called a nigger every time she served. She was threatened by a white male that told her to watch her back going to the team bus. A police officer had to be put by their bench.

Not one freaking adult did anything to protect her. I’m looking at you @BYU. You allowed this racist behavior to continue without intervening. Apologizing to her parents after the fact is not enough. She will soon be sharing her story.


https://twitter.com/LesaPamplin/status/ ... 5074136064

[Libertas]

Saw that.

MAGA have been told they can do this now.

[carmenjonze]

viewtopic.php?t=1187#p36151

And yet people here refuse to accept the fact that you are a bigot and racist

Hey Confederate flag guy. This is actual bigotry and racism. Perpetuated -- as always -- by conservative white males, and their sheet-sewing karen wives.

Never has any other group of people in this country done this to anyone else.
__________

Dr.S
@ElsieScot

60 years ago today, my father was shot when nightriders attempted to kill most of my family to stop my father from helping Black people #RegisterToVote

@NCBCP @NAACP @DrBenChavis @SekouFranklin @coalitionbuildr @Nkechi_Taifa @RickAdams14 @toldson @MsLaToshaBrown @cwelchlin





Jet Magazine carried the story Sept 13, 1962









https://twitter.com/ElsieScot/status/15 ... 8689471488

[Libertas]

POC cant be racists in America.

sigh

Meanwhile, trump sold confidential 'CIA informant info to Russia, and board con says nothing. And promises to continue to vote for the party he is leader of.

If anyone here works for the CIA, board con and friends are your enemy.

[carmenjonze]

POC cant be racists in America.

Sure, they can.

Plenty of "POC" think it's going to benefit them if they throw in their lot with these conservative whites, even if they already know they'll be the first to go under white-conservative regimes. Freaks like Hitler-apologist Candace Owens and that Enrique Tarrio creep, leader of white nationalist groups like the Proud Boys.

Glennfs knows better than to try and peddle them on this board.

Conservatives of all stripes are THAT self-loathing. :problem:

sigh

Meanwhile, trump sold confidential 'CIA informant info to Russia, and board con says nothing. And promises to continue to vote for the party he is leader of.

If anyone here works for the CIA, board con and friends are your enemy.

There is only one group of people in this country that has inflicted this kind of harm on everyone else for so many centuries: conservative whites.

Not one other group has done this.

And yes, Glennfs starts those self-absorbed troll threads to insult actual victims of racism like Rev. John Henry Scott above, and avoid the news that comes out daily regarding the party full of Confederate simps and neonazis.

[Libertas]

Sure, they can.

Plenty of "POC" think it's going to benefit them if they throw in their lot with these conservative whites, even if they already know they'll be the first to go under white-conservative regimes. Freaks like Hitler-apologist Candace Owens and that Enrique Tarrio creep, leader of white nationalist groups like the Proud Boys.

Glennfs knows better than to try and peddle them on this board.

Conservatives of all stripes are THAT self-loathing. :problem:


There is only one group of people in this country that has inflicted this kind of harm on everyone else for so many centuries: conservative whites.

Not one other group has done this.

And yes, Glennfs starts those self-absorbed troll threads to insult actual victims of racism like Rev. John Henry Scott above, and avoid the news that comes out daily regarding the party full of Confederate simps and neonazis.

I qualified it with "in America" as in the definition of racism usually involves systemic power, etc...But if a POC is racist against another POC, then sure. That is of course not what board con is talking about. as you say

[carmenjonze]

I qualified it with "in America" as in the definition of racism usually involves systemic power, etc...But if a POC is racist against another POC, then sure. That is of course not what board con is talking about. as you say

This is true.

These people really think they are victims of the very people they have systematically, historically victimized...for centuries.

[ProfX]

Jackson water crisis: A legacy of environmental racism?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62783900

President Joe Biden's landmark infrastructure bill earmarked money for disadvantaged and underserved communities like Jackson, which in 2020 had a population of 163,000. But the funding is allocated by state legislators who, Mr Banks says, often succumb to politics and prioritise projects for their constituents instead of focusing on fixing systemic issues in Jackson.

"We have a water treatment facility that's obsolete that nobody has thought about for years," says Professor Edmund Merem, an urban planning and environmental studies professor at Jackson State University.

"I think the problem is that the reaction tends to be ad hoc."

But Prof Merem also believes another factor has pulled focus and funding away from the Jackson's crumbling infrastructure - race.

Experts and advocates say what is happening in Jackson - and in towns like Flint in Michigan, where the water supply was contaminated with lead - is a direct legacy of generations of discrimination and segregation.

"This is a deep seated, decades-long, in the making kind of situation," says Arielle King, a lawyer and environmental justice advocate.
"I think the history of racial segregation and redlining in this country have deeply contributed to the environmental injustices we see right now."

[snip][end]

Environmental racism and injustice continue to be civil rights issues.
And, as I've been saying, it's important we study the past because it is still affecting the present.

[Bludogdem]

Or it’s just government business as usual.

“ Our cities' water systems are becoming obsolete. What will replace them?”

“ So what's standing in the way of "Water 4.0"?
"The first obstacle is that people don't want to spend the money until there's a crisis," Sedlak says. "It's only once crises occur, people to start investing money very quickly. We see that with respect to flood control infrastructure in New Orleans and New York City. People had issued warnings that those cities were susceptible to major hurricanes, but we had to wait for those hurricanes to hit."

"Similarly when you look at the questions of drought, or combined sewer overflows or decaying pipes — prior to an emergency, the public's hesitant to make the investment. So the challenge for water engineers is to try to have the right technologies available, so that when society decides it's time for a change, these are the shovel-ready projects that we build. Because if we don't do the demonstration-scale projects and learn about the pros and cons of different approaches, we'll just continue to build more of the same."

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/6/6900959/w ... salination

[ProfX]

Well, since neglect of water and other infrastructure seems to correlate with racial demographics of cities -- please see my article by those rabid leftists at BBC -- it might be business as usual, but there is clearly a racial aspect to it.

"There are no white people there": Jackson's water crisis, explained
Years of neglect, racism and poor infrastructure have created a "constant state of emergency"
https://www.salon.com/2022/09/02/there- ... explained/

[ProfX]

Since I understand we have some fans of the PBS NewsHour ... well here you go.

How infrastructure has historically promoted inequality
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/h ... inequality

[snip]

But what has historically received less attention is the role infrastructure construction and maintenance have played in promoting inequality and racial segregation.

“There is racism physically built into some of our highways,” Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg said in an interview with the Grio this month.

That recognition shaped President Joe Biden’s $2.3 trillion plan to improve U.S. infrastructure. In addition to fixing highways, bridges and roads, the proposal calls for an investment of $20 billion into communities that have historically been hurt by infrastructure projects. It would also provide $45 billion to replace lead pipes and service lines in communities like Flint, Michigan, as well as billions to expand broadband access and affordable housing options.

[snip]

One of the clearest examples of inequity in infrastructure is the interstate highway system.

[snip]

But when it came to where those highways would be built, many communities of color were uprooted to make way for construction, Avila said. In a 2016 speech at the Center for American Progress, then-Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said the first two decades of the federal interstate system displaced 475,000 families and more than one million people.

One of those affected communities was Overtown, an economically and culturally vibrant Black neighborhood in Miami where about 10,000 people were displaced in order to build a section of Interstate 95. In a 2020 Vanderbilt Law Review article on the subject, New York University law professor Deborah Archer said the destruction of Overtown was the culmination of a decades-long effort by local white business owners to move Black residents out of the area with the hopes of expanding their own business district.

[snip]

Similar displacements have resulted from the construction of airports and urban renewal projects that in some cities drove up the cost of housing and pushed out existing community members. In other cases, communities of color and low income areas were cut off from access to opportunities or necessities like clean water.

[snip]

Research also indicates that low-income neighborhoods and communities of color are most likely to be targeted for hazardous waste sites. All of these factors affect physical and economic well-being for historically marginalized populations.

[snip]

In one 2020 study, Armanios and his co-researcher determined that communities in Pennsylvania with more people of color and single-parent families tended to have fewer bridges. The bridges that existed were more likely to be “restrictive” or low-clearance, which can obstruct the influx of business goods and transportation services.

[snip][end]

Again, two problems:
1. yes, poor and minority communities often have more neglected infrastructure than others. There are problems of general neglect, and then there's the color of it. And are disproportionately affected by pollution and toxic waste.
2. but when it comes to the building of infrastructure, like the IHS, the burdens and consequences are more direct usually on minority communities.

(I said I'd return to this topic) (so here we are)

[carmenjonze]

Or it’s just government business as usual.

"Government business as usual" includes structural and infrastructural racism.

Always has.

What are you doing to change it?

[Libertas]

"Government business as usual" includes structural and infrastructural racism.

Always has.

What are you doing to change it?

Govt business as usual is only negative, when it is, BECAUSE of these stupid cons. And they think they have brains.

[Bludogdem]

Since I understand we have some fans of the PBS NewsHour ... well here you go.

How infrastructure has historically promoted inequality
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/h ... inequality

[snip]

But what has historically received less attention is the role infrastructure construction and maintenance have played in promoting inequality and racial segregation.

“There is racism physically built into some of our highways,” Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg said in an interview with the Grio this month.

That recognition shaped President Joe Biden’s $2.3 trillion plan to improve U.S. infrastructure. In addition to fixing highways, bridges and roads, the proposal calls for an investment of $20 billion into communities that have historically been hurt by infrastructure projects. It would also provide $45 billion to replace lead pipes and service lines in communities like Flint, Michigan, as well as billions to expand broadband access and affordable housing options.

[snip]

One of the clearest examples of inequity in infrastructure is the interstate highway system.

[snip]

But when it came to where those highways would be built, many communities of color were uprooted to make way for construction, Avila said. In a 2016 speech at the Center for American Progress, then-Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said the first two decades of the federal interstate system displaced 475,000 families and more than one million people.

One of those affected communities was Overtown, an economically and culturally vibrant Black neighborhood in Miami where about 10,000 people were displaced in order to build a section of Interstate 95. In a 2020 Vanderbilt Law Review article on the subject, New York University law professor Deborah Archer said the destruction of Overtown was the culmination of a decades-long effort by local white business owners to move Black residents out of the area with the hopes of expanding their own business district.

[snip]

Similar displacements have resulted from the construction of airports and urban renewal projects that in some cities drove up the cost of housing and pushed out existing community members. In other cases, communities of color and low income areas were cut off from access to opportunities or necessities like clean water.

[snip]

Research also indicates that low-income neighborhoods and communities of color are most likely to be targeted for hazardous waste sites. All of these factors affect physical and economic well-being for historically marginalized populations.

[snip]

In one 2020 study, Armanios and his co-researcher determined that communities in Pennsylvania with more people of color and single-parent families tended to have fewer bridges. The bridges that existed were more likely to be “restrictive” or low-clearance, which can obstruct the influx of business goods and transportation services.

[snip][end]

Again, two problems:
1. yes, poor and minority communities often have more neglected infrastructure than others. There are problems of general neglect, and then there's the color of it. And are disproportionately affected by pollution and toxic waste.
2. but when it comes to the building of infrastructure, like the IHS, the burdens and consequences are more direct usually on minority communities.

(I said I'd return to this topic) (so here we are)

Interstate highways, when initially built, ran physically adjacent to cities. Exits right into the city. That’s where African American communities were, they bordered the cities. They weren’t the target they were simply in the way.

[ProfX]

You say you're a fan of NPR, right?

Addressing The Racial Inequities Of The Interstate Highway System
https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2021/06/22 ... way-system

On the destruction of Overtown, a Black community in Florida

Deborah Archer: “When you're examining the impact that the interstate highway had on Black communities, and other communities of color, I think you have to look at the many ways that it helped to solidify our racially segregated and discriminatory landscape. And that's by serving sometimes as walls, sometimes as a wedge and sometimes as an extractor in Black communities around the country. And so in terms of it being an extractor, the highways were a tool of removal. And in states around the country, highway construction, displaced households, Black households and really destroyed thriving communities as their homes, and churches, and schools and businesses were destroyed.

"And in some of those communities, the highway became the tool that white government officials had been looking for for a long time. They had wanted to claim Black neighborhoods. They had wanted to remove Black residents, but lacked the tools because the law prevented other overt forms of discrimination. And the highway construction provided not only the tool, but funds and resources to do that.

"An example is the destruction of a Black community to make way for I-95 in Miami, Florida. And that's an example of how construction of the highway was used to actualize a racial agenda to destroy a vibrant Black community. I-95 tore through the center of Overtown, which was a large and vibrant Black community that was then considered to be the center of economic and cultural life for Black people who were living in Miami. And the destruction of Overtown was the realization of a decade-long campaign by white business leaders and government officials that wanted to remove Black residents and claim that land to expand Miami Central Business District.

"And by the late 1960s, they were successful. And Overtown was dominated by the highway and there was really no evidence of why it was once called the Harlem of the South. Nearly 40,000 people lived in Overtown before the highway expansion. And shortly after the highways built, only about 8,000 remained in that community, and it really did to devastate them. And that happened again around the country where the goal was to remove Black community. Sometimes the excuse was given that they were trying to remove blighted communities or quote-unquote slums. Often those communities were nowhere near what anyone would consider to be a blighted community. But that was used as an excuse."

[snip][end]

[bird]

Interstate highways, when initially built, ran physically adjacent to cities. Exits right into the city. That’s where African American communities were, they bordered the cities. They weren’t the target they were simply in the way.

If the original plan for I-490 had been built going from I-77 to I-271 in Cleveland it would have gone directly through African-American neighborhoods. As it is the so-called Opportunity Corridor did just that. I-90 went through poor and African American neighborhoods.

[ProfX]

Mark Woods: A thriving neighborhood before I-95, now a reminder that a road isn't just a road
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/mar ... 05034.html

In the 1950s, many of Jacksonville’s most prominent African-Americans lived in Sugar Hill. It was a neighborhood with big, beautiful homes, many of which were demolished to make way for the highway. There was Wilder Park, with a branch library, a track, baseball diamond and community center. It was replaced by an interchange.

[snip]

In Alabama, the highways were used as weapons, pushing back against the Civil Rights movement. Before the state highway director got in trouble for skimming funds, he was pushing to have the interstate take a path through two churches that were involved in the Montgomery bus boycott, plus the home of Ralph Abernathy, Martin Luther King Jr.'s assistant.

[snip]

In Atlanta, where it sometimes seems like the goal of their highway construction was to create epic traffic jams, historian Kevin Kruse has written the intent was crystal clear. There, and many other cities, the highways became tools against integration, a paved version of George Wallace's segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.

"Interstate 20, the east-west corridor that connects with I-75 and I-85 in Atlanta’s center, was deliberately plotted along a winding route in the late 1950s to serve, in the words of Mayor Bill Hartsfield, as ‘the boundary between the white and Negro communities on the west side of town,’” he wrote.

[snip]

In Orlando, the residents of Winter Park pushed back against the idea of Interstate 4 running through their neighborhood. The highway was shifted to cut through Parramore, an African-American neighborhood with its own long and rich history.

[snip][end]

When you look at these planning decisions, and you can, and you see the words of the planners, it's clear it wasn't just an accident they bisected or disrupted African-American communities. Sometimes they were intentionally moved and shifted to almost pursue that as a goal.

[carmenjonze]

Today in Exhibit A of How White Nationalist Public Policy Works:

Interstate highways, when initially built, ran physically adjacent to cities. Exits right into the city. That’s where African American communities were, they bordered the cities.

this staggering level of ignorance is itself a function of segregationism, and you being a product of it.

Learn something about African American communities before commenting.

They did not always “border the cities.” That’s why “inner city” is still code/euphemism/synonymous-with the Black part of town, Chinatowns, and barrios. Also known as “The Quarter” in some eras and regions.

Conceptually, “the ghetto” as known in this country has antisemitic roots in you guys’ old countries.

By the way. these policies did not begin with interstates and other highways/thruways/freeways. They started in earnest in the 1800s. The phrase “the other side of the [railroad] tracks” and “wrong side of the tracks” also reflect this history.

[carmenjonze]

They weren’t the target they were simply in the way.

spoken like a true Manifest Destiny colonizer.

Black communities at the time of construction of the Interstates were disposable by design, because that was the heart of the segregation era, as well as the period of so-called urban renewal and it’s highway systems. Those concurrent policy decisions also targeted and destroyed Black and other minoritized, forcibly-segregated neighborhoods.

But yes, keep telling yourself what happens to them is purely coincidental instead of being the government-imposed, race-based, public-private-partnership policy decisions they are.

Or, conversely, stop lying to yourself.

The very existence of “African American communities” is due to race-based public policy.

[ProfX]

Conceptually, “the ghetto” as known in this country has antisemitic roots in you guys’ old countries.

Yes, the first one, by that name, was for isolating & segregating Jews in Venice in 1515 -- later Rome. (Some debate about the etymology, but it was first used by the Italians.)

By the way. these policies did not begin with interstates and other highways/thruways/freeways. They started in earnest in the 1800s. The phrase “the other side of the [railroad] tracks” and “wrong side of the tracks” also reflect this history.

Yep. There is often nothing all that new under the sun.

https://grammarist.com/idiom/wrong-side-of-the-tracks/

The expression wrong side of the tracks is an image taken from the years when railroads were the most modern mode of transportation. Railroad tracks ran through towns and cities. The neighborhoods near or downwind of the railroad tracks bore the brunt of noise and soot from the locomotives. Consequently, the people who lived in these areas, on the wrong side of the tracks, were too poor to live anywhere else that was more pleasant. Ancient philosophers equated the right side of anything as the positive side and the left side of anything as the sinister or negative side. Though railroads were extremely important in the 1800s and the last spike that connected the American Transcontinental Railroad was driven in 1869 in Promontory, Utah, the expression wrong side of the tracks did not become popular until the 1920s. The phrase right side of the tracks, to mean someone who was born into or is living a life of good fortune, is sometimes seen but is not nearly as popular as the negative iteration of the term.

[snip][end]

[carmenjonze]

Yes, the first one, by that name, was for isolating & segregating Jews in Venice in 1515 -- later Rome. (Some debate about the etymology, but it was first used by the Italians.)



Yep. There is often nothing all that new under the sun.

https://grammarist.com/idiom/wrong-side-of-the-tracks/

The expression wrong side of the tracks is an image taken from the years when railroads were the most modern mode of transportation. Railroad tracks ran through towns and cities. The neighborhoods near or downwind of the railroad tracks bore the brunt of noise and soot from the locomotives. Consequently, the people who lived in these areas, on the wrong side of the tracks, were too poor to live anywhere else that was more pleasant. Ancient philosophers equated the right side of anything as the positive side and the left side of anything as the sinister or negative side. Though railroads were extremely important in the 1800s and the last spike that connected the American Transcontinental Railroad was driven in 1869 in Promontory, Utah, the expression wrong side of the tracks did not become popular until the 1920s. The phrase right side of the tracks, to mean someone who was born into or is living a life of good fortune, is sometimes seen but is not nearly as popular as the negative iteration of the term.

[snip][end]

This infrastructure was planned, imposed, and implemented. And enforced by the cops and vigilante violence.

So now you get conservative whites and other cons who are so delusional they believe they somehow personally earned everything they have due to being naturally superior, and this country's supposedly-superior form of economic mobility. They feign confusion about the police brutality that has resulted since the slavery era, and has not relented.

Some of them, like Glennfs, will tell you right to your face that you're actually lucky to toil under their systems of oppression if you're a so-called minority.

:problem: They're trying to re-implement these structures for a reason: they can't compete, and they never could, not without the government intervention and Big Government guiding their self-loathing lives.

[carmenjonze]

Yes, the first one, by that name, was for isolating & segregating Jews in Venice in 1515 -- later Rome. (Some debate about the etymology, but it was first used by the Italians.)

Yes and in this country, there are very important differences.

For instance, what one might call the ghetto-to-death-camps-pipeline during WW2.

We have not had anything like that here, or anything like it. Not even the Trail of Tears. US ghettos did not and do not have this history.

Also, according to USHMM the ghettos were often temporary, and then during the Third Reich they turned lethal.

Ghettos

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this could be why Jews sometimes say, yeah...we see what is coming down the pike. Time to GTFOOHhhhh, bye. Seen this before for like 6K years; not doing this, again, ever. At least there's Israel, now.

So these ghettoes are VERY different from USA ghettoes comprised mainly of African Americans, Latinos, Asian-Americans, and recent immigrants. The purpose there is to maintain a permanent, segregated underclass. And that's different from mass-murdering the ghettoes, or using them as staging grounds for death camps.

Or just flat out destroying it whenever convenient, like to make a way for a thruway, or a public park, use eminient domain to build high-rises for yuppies, or dump all the public-private-partnership toxic waste there.

So to me, this is whre the idea becomes related. These people are "minorities" who should really be grateful for the opportunity of living within our gates without us just slaughering them on sight. We can do to them whatever we want. And anybody who says differently is socialismcommunism.

It might not be so creepy if the Nazis did not incorporate their concepts and methods with ideas from US conservative whites, eugenicists calling themselves "progressives," and environmentalist conservationalists of the times.

[ProfX]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this could be why Jews sometimes say, yeah...we see what is coming down the pike. Time to GTFOOHhhhh, bye. Seen this before for like 6K years; not doing this, again, ever. At least there's Israel, now.

Well, look, you know going back years I have got into some contentious arguments with people here & on other boards. "Liberals" who often have some views on Israel that are still pretty rooted in anti-Semitism. Now to be clear: I keep seeing arguments over the IHRA definition. Neither I nor that definition would claim all criticisms of Israel, its government, its political parties, its leaders, or all forms of Zionism, are anti-Semitism. Of course they aren't.

BUT: when ppl. say things like "Jews control U.S. policy over Israel" I kinda bristle. I mean, no we don't. But that's very much an anti-Semitic idea, going back to tropes of the Jewish octopus strangling the West in Der Sturmer. Or when they say "Zionists control the media". Well, look, I know what they mean. It's the same as saying "Jews control Hollywood". And these people call themselves liberal, yet they're engaging in old anti-Semitic tropes.

Zionism started in the 19th century, before the Holocaust was a glimmer in anyone's eye, but when people like journalist Theodor Herzl saw the Dreyfus Trial, the horrific pogroms in Russia, the blood libel accusations that continued into the 20th c. ... yes, there was an idea, that Jews should have their homeland, not to dominate Palestinians, not to rule the world, but just to survive.

I despair over any solution to the I/P conflict. I have plenty of criticism myself for Likud, for Netanyahu and Bennett, for the settlers in the WB. Also for Hamas and Hezbollah. As you know, I don't support BDS, particularly of Israeli academics and artists. But I can also definitely say people like Trump, who basically just shat on the Palestinians, are not helping.

It might not be so creepy if the Nazis did not incorporate their concepts and methods with ideas from US conservative whites, eugenicists calling themselves "progressives," and environmentalist conservationalists of the times.

Yeah, it's a little creepy where the Nazis developed their ideology of Lebensraum from. In part, from Germans who we might consider "greens," conservationists, and ... well, they often advocated ideas of population control and reduction, particularly of the (supposed) untermenschen.

[ProfX]

Oh my.. is this Blake Masters a nut. He's moved around strange ends of the horseshoe. Vegan co-op, eh? Peter Thiel sure knows how to pick 'em.

‘Don’t Vote’: A Look At Blake Masters’ Emails To His Vegan Co-op At Stanford University
A trove of emails from 2006 found Masters – who's now a Republican Senate candidate – disparaging democracy and defending a 9/11 conspiracy theorist.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/blake-ma ... a556c1d236

As a college student, Blake Masters ― now the GOP candidate for U.S. Senate in Arizona ― defended a classmate’s skepticism of the “official story” of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. He also told his roommates that voting was pointless and often “immoral,” railed against health inspections as “bullshit,” and said America circa 2006 was “fascist.”

[snip]

Masters’ past comments, on blogs, in interviews and even on a Crossfit message board, have already become major issues in the race. His opponent in the primary, businessman Jim Lamon, spent millions on ads noting that Masters had referred to the Unabomber as an “underrated” thinker, and the Anti-Defamation League has criticized posts and articles Masters wrote suggesting that the “Houses of Morgan and Rothschild” were partially responsible for America’s entry into World War I.

[snip]

To win his primary, Masters espoused a variety of hard-line views, calling for the overturn of the Supreme Court cases guaranteeing a right to contraception and same-sex marriage, backing former President Donald Trump’s lies about a stolen election in 2020 and saying he would vote to impeach President Joe Biden. He’s backed away from some of those positions since winning the primary, including a call to privatize Social Security.
The views Masters expresses in the 2006 emails hew less to conservative orthodoxy, and show the influence of the “dozens and dozens of books on true freedom, anarchy, and philosophical (not partisian) libertarianism” he boasted of owning. Many of the emails lament what he described as the limited scope of American political debate, and decry American politics and elections as little more than a scam.

[snip]

In May 2006, the Department of Defense released footage of American Airlines Flight 77 striking the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001 ― prompting another Stanford student to send off a lengthy email questioning the official story of the attacks and recommending the website of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Masters quickly defended his fellow student’s skepticism, while never outright sharing his views.

“I just want to point out that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a ‘conspiracy theorist’ or a ‘revisionist historian,’” Masters wrote, adding: “Given how many state-run conspiracies and official revisionist projects have taken place in recent history ... it would be crazy to pretend that such things are no longer possible, or that ‘it couldnt happen here…’”

[snip][end]

So ... I'll take one part of your message to heart, Blake ... if you're thinking of voting for Blake Masters in AZ ... 'Don't Vote'.

Oh and Thiel's other protege, JD Vance, says what America needs is ... Julius Caesar. I swear, I wish I was making this up.

[Bludogdem]

Oh my.. is this Blake Masters a nut. He's moved around strange ends of the horseshoe. Vegan co-op, eh? Peter Thiel sure knows how to pick 'em.

‘Don’t Vote’: A Look At Blake Masters’ Emails To His Vegan Co-op At Stanford University
A trove of emails from 2006 found Masters – who's now a Republican Senate candidate – disparaging democracy and defending a 9/11 conspiracy theorist.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/blake-ma ... a556c1d236

As a college student, Blake Masters ― now the GOP candidate for U.S. Senate in Arizona ― defended a classmate’s skepticism of the “official story” of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. He also told his roommates that voting was pointless and often “immoral,” railed against health inspections as “bullshit,” and said America circa 2006 was “fascist.”

[snip]

Masters’ past comments, on blogs, in interviews and even on a Crossfit message board, have already become major issues in the race. His opponent in the primary, businessman Jim Lamon, spent millions on ads noting that Masters had referred to the Unabomber as an “underrated” thinker, and the Anti-Defamation League has criticized posts and articles Masters wrote suggesting that the “Houses of Morgan and Rothschild” were partially responsible for America’s entry into World War I.

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To win his primary, Masters espoused a variety of hard-line views, calling for the overturn of the Supreme Court cases guaranteeing a right to contraception and same-sex marriage, backing former President Donald Trump’s lies about a stolen election in 2020 and saying he would vote to impeach President Joe Biden. He’s backed away from some of those positions since winning the primary, including a call to privatize Social Security.
The views Masters expresses in the 2006 emails hew less to conservative orthodoxy, and show the influence of the “dozens and dozens of books on true freedom, anarchy, and philosophical (not partisian) libertarianism” he boasted of owning. Many of the emails lament what he described as the limited scope of American political debate, and decry American politics and elections as little more than a scam.

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In May 2006, the Department of Defense released footage of American Airlines Flight 77 striking the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001 ― prompting another Stanford student to send off a lengthy email questioning the official story of the attacks and recommending the website of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Masters quickly defended his fellow student’s skepticism, while never outright sharing his views.

“I just want to point out that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a ‘conspiracy theorist’ or a ‘revisionist historian,’” Masters wrote, adding: “Given how many state-run conspiracies and official revisionist projects have taken place in recent history ... it would be crazy to pretend that such things are no longer possible, or that ‘it couldnt happen here…’”

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So ... I'll take one part of your message to heart, Blake ... if you're thinking of voting for Blake Masters in AZ ... 'Don't Vote'.

Oh and Thiel's other protege, JD Vance, says what America needs is ... Julius Caesar. I swear, I wish I was making this up.

So, being Thiel protégés it’s obvious the Caesar reference isn’t calling for a dictator. Keep in mind these folks are the New Right, Neo Reactionary types. The Caesar reference is the desire to find a leader that will displace the current leadership they view as “the Cathedral” or “the regime”, an Oligarchy of the Educated. There’s a bit of nuance here. The Thiel acolytes aren’t trumpian or maga. That’s just a tool or device to them.