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JoeMemphis wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:12 pm I haven’t downplayed anything Drak. I’ve always said let professionals investigate. I haven’t tried to block or downplay allegations or investigations based on party affiliation. That I leave to you.
Nope. You called it a tour, protest or riot. Your fence sitting no party affiliation schtick is well past old. It doesn’t matter what you try to call yourself. It doesn’t play with anyone here. You support the Republican Party. You support people like Marsha Blackburn and Ron Desantis, and claim BS conspiracy theories like Uranium One and Durham are important. But an attempted coup isn’t important to you.
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Drak wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:18 pm Nope. You called it a tour, protest or riot. Your fence sitting no party affiliation schtick is well past old. It doesn’t matter what you try to call yourself. It doesn’t play with anyone here. You support the Republican Party. You support people like Marsha Blackburn and Ron Desantis, and claim BS conspiracy theories like Uranium One and Durham are important. But an attempted coup isn’t important to you.
They know the left isnt capable of ANY of the behavour of their proud boys or trump etal.

So they will sit back knowing they are physically safe and just let the crazier ones take us out. This is their wish.

We wont let it happen.
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Libertas wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:29 pm They know the left isnt capable of ANY of the behavour of their proud boys or trump etal.

So they will sit back knowing they are physically safe and just let the crazier ones take us out. This is their wish.

We wont let it happen.
Joe Memphis can’t even get his story straight about what he stands for. He claims he’s against government interference and over reach. But then he votes for people like Marsha Blackburn who wants to regulate what couples do in the bedroom. He supports Ron DeSantis who tells parents how to raise their kids, and tells businesses how they’re allowed to operate, threatening and punishing businesses who speak out against him, a violation of the 1A. And, he votes for federalist politicians who want to take women’s rights away. He’s full of shite.
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Drak wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:45 pm Joe Memphis can’t even get his story straight about what he stands for. He claims he’s against government interference and over reach. But then he votes for people like Marsha Blackburn who wants to regulate what couples do in the bedroom. He supports Ron DeSantis who tells parents how to raise their kids, and tells businesses how they’re allowed to operate, threatening and punishing businesses who speak out against him, a violation of the 1A. And, he votes for federalist politicians who want to take women’s rights away. He’s full of shite.
Cons have no morals, that is what it comes down to.

Everything you said is true, but the con wont deal with it. Being against POC and Women and LGBTQ is more important than anything else.
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Mike Sington
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Jan 6 Committee Member Rep. Zoe Lofgren confirms congressional members were evacuated through the underground tunnels of the Capitol on January 6. She also confirms these are the same tunnels Rep. Barry Loudermilk’s tour guest was videotaping on January 5.


https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/ ... 2487938048
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Drak wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:58 pm Mike Sington
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Jan 6 Committee Member Rep. Zoe Lofgren confirms congressional members were evacuated through the underground tunnels of the Capitol on January 6. She also confirms these are the same tunnels Rep. Barry Loudermilk’s tour guest was videotaping on January 5.


https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/ ... 2487938048
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/13/us/p ... -tour.html

Capital police say the tours were innocent tours.
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Drak wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:43 pm The committee is now exposing republican members of congress like Barry Loudermik, who has continually lied about giving reconnaissance tours to MAGA insurrectionists just before Jan 6.

Insurrectionsts on his tour took pictures of key locations, staircases and tunnels before the attack.

Some examples. Taking pictures of seemingly unremarkable areas. Something “tourists” don’t typically do.

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Hugo Lowell @hugolowell Verified
NEW: The man who took photos of tunnels leading to the Capitol on GOP Rep. Barry Loudermilk’s tour the day before the Capitol attack appears to have arrived in DC on Jan. 4 on a “Keep America Great” bus — latest
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 6-attacker
Notice how this MAGAT on Loudermilk’s reconnaissance sedition tour is sporting multiple phones and he’s taking pictures with multiple phones. Of an access point.

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Drak wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:18 pm Nope. You called it a tour, protest or riot. Your fence sitting no party affiliation schtick is well past old. It doesn’t matter what you try to call yourself. It doesn’t play with anyone here. You support the Republican Party. You support people like Marsha Blackburn and Ron Desantis, and claim BS conspiracy theories like Uranium One and Durham are important. But an attempted coup isn’t important to you.
Think what you choose Drak. It’s no more accurate or relevant than your legal opinion. You run around with your hair on fire about all these crimes that are “irrefutable” and yet nothing comes of them.

At least we agree on leaving legal matters in the DOJ’s hands. That’s a monumental step for you. Progress.
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Jonathan Karl @jonkarl Verified

ABC News Exclusive - The photos of Mike Pence and his family sheltered in the Capitol during the Jan 6 attack. These are some of the photos I described in “Betrayal”

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/photos- ... d=85419691



Jonathan Karl @jonkarl
In this photo, taken minutes after VP Pence was evacuated from the Senate Floor, Karen Pence closes the curtains. A person in the room told me she could see the mob outside and was fearful they would see where Pence was.

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https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1537196691346030592
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:49 pm Have you forgotten about the stolen election propaganda when Trump beat HRC.
Hi Mister Apples/Oranges.

Name one instance. Link it, and quote it.

While you're at it, name one person who wrapped themselves in Confederate flags, armed themselves, got on a private jet, proceded to crap all over the halls of Congress and injure nearly 150 cops to hang Nancy Pelosi &Mike Pence, egged on by the sitting president.

Name even ONE congressperson who went on Twitter to encourage them for days ahead of time, and months, now a year and a half later.
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carmenjonze wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:56 pm Hi Mister Apples/Oranges.

Name one instance. Link it, and quote it.

While you're at it, name one person who wrapped themselves in Confederate flags, armed themselves, got on a private jet, proceded to crap all over the halls of Congress and injure nearly 150 cops to hang Nancy Pelosi &Mike Pence, egged on by the sitting president.

Name even ONE congressperson who went on Twitter to encourage them for days ahead of time, and months, now a year and a half later.
I can tell you that if this happened by and under a Democratic President, I wouldn't be constantly defending and denying, like the local cons do.
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Drak wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:59 pm I can tell you that if this happened by and under a Democratic President, I wouldn't be constantly defending and denying, like the local cons do.
It wouldnt matter if you did or not, the entire media would DEMAND instant arrest and most of the country would as well.

The GOP has begun their new thing, refusing to certify elections they lose, see my new thread. The very thing we need to have been talking about for a long time now
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:03 pm https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/13/us/p ... -tour.html

Capital police say the tours were innocent tours.
The video from the Jan 6th Committee contradicts the Capitol Hill Police.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmJVEKtFIjQ
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I give up.
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Glennfs wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:03 pm https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/13/us/p ... -tour.html

Capital police say the tours were innocent tours.
Paywall. Better source, please.
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Drak wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:06 pm Notice how this MAGAT on Loudermilk’s reconnaissance sedition tour is sporting multiple phones and he’s taking pictures with multiple phones. Of an access point.
Can you begin to imagine just what would have happened if the coup attempt involved anyone who wasn't abjectly stupid?

Take pictures with one phone. You can share the pictures!
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Toonces wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:12 pm Can you begin to imagine just what would have happened if the coup attempt involved anyone who wasn't abjectly stupid?

Take pictures with one phone. You can share the pictures!
Skeeter and Bubba etc., probably handed their phones off to Adolf on the bus so they could lay low and not draw too much attentions.

Just not very bright.
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Drak wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:06 pm Notice how this MAGAT on Loudermilk’s reconnaissance sedition tour is sporting multiple phones and he’s taking pictures with multiple phones. Of an access point.

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This freak literally has a Hitler haircut.
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Number6 wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:34 pm The video from the Jan 6th Committee contradicts the Capitol Hill Police.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmJVEKtFIjQ
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Drak wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:59 pm I can tell you that if this happened by and under a Democratic President, I wouldn't be constantly defending and denying, like the local cons do.
I mean, there just really is no equivalent.

If this did happen under a D president, it would be these same white-conservative gang members and other terrorists doing it for the same reason: their person did not win, and they wish to impose violent authoritarianism on everyone else.
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https://twitter.com/jamiegangel/status/ ... 1926760451


Jamie Gangel @jamiegangel Verified
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⁩ says January 6 was a⁩ 'well-developed plan' by Trump to cling to power. Read his statement for ⁦
@January6thCmte

first time here:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/16/politics ... index.html

"Had the Vice President of the United States obeyed the President of the United States, America would immediately have been plunged into what would have been tantamount to a revolution within a paralyzing constitutional crisis."
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Drak wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:28 am https://twitter.com/jamiegangel/status/ ... 1926760451


Jamie Gangel @jamiegangel Verified
Exclusive - conservative legal icon ⁦
@judgeluttig
⁩ says January 6 was a⁩ 'well-developed plan' by Trump to cling to power. Read his statement for ⁦
@January6thCmte

first time here:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/16/politics ... index.html
Well, I hope he has stepped up his security.
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carmenjonze wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:32 am Well, I hope he has stepped up his security.
Yep...I wrote following for DU but I dont want the headache of the reactions so I will put it here.

FTR, I am NOT blaming the Democratic Party for the likelihood that NONE of
these high profile criminals will be indicted let alone convicted.

I am blaming our entire system and existence.

As I have explained before, IMO, it all started in the 60's when the media was labeled LIBERAL because of the simple fact that most reporters and journalists, BY DEFINITION were educated, worldly, mature observers of the world who overwhelmingly told the truth or reported truthfully to the best of their abilities.

Some of you reading this can explain it better. I remember Dan Rather reporting from Vietnam and he reported honestly and as a result was targeted by righty.

As a result of this and many other things, for the past 50 years the right is given pass after pass after pass where the left is not.

If a left prez puts his feet on the desk or his spouse says water is good for children (Michelle), it is major news in a BAD way, they are criticized.

If a right prez tortures people or throws our military advisers out of the room so he can give the Russians all our secrets, you hear little about it compared to the former.

If a prez lies about a consensual sexual relationship, the entire nation and media talks of NOTHING else for years.

If a righty prez brags about attacking Women, he can still get elected.

I want to be wrong, I want to see cons indicted. But I will tell you, part of me realizes that if justice were done, it is then very possible there would be massive violence by the right. Not saying dont do it for that reason, but it is a real concern.

Also, if someone at the hearing or somewhere on TV so that it can get streaming doesnt do something unusual or outrageous and loud to get the attention of the almost 100 million voters who, believe it or not saw NO REASON to vote in 2020, our future could be very bad.
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I've taken the tour of the Capitol. They don't even talk about tunnels and access to non-public areas, let alone take you past them and identify them as such. Mostly you walk a lot, get shown some statues and paintings, and if you're lucky get to sit in the galleries for a while when the legislative branch is actually in session.

Whoever showed the coupsters around should face criminal liability for reckless endangerment and divulging sensitive information to parties whose intentions were unknown.

After today's hearing, I've had it with this shit. You are either for the rule of law or you are against it. If you are against it, I have nothing to say to you.
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Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT
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BIG: Eastman told Rudy he wanted to be included on the presidential pardon list at some point after the Jan 6 riot.


https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/15 ... 3674531840

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ABC News @ABC
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Judge Luttig believes former Pres. Trump and his supporters "are a clear and present danger to American democracy," saying he worries they will "succeed in 2024 where they failed in 2020."

"I don't speak those words lightly."

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1537524821390725120


Carrie Johnson @johnson_carrie - Verified
"Donald Trump and his supporters are a clear and present danger to American democracy. That's not bc of what happened on January 6th, it's bc to this very day" Trump and his allies would attempt to overturn the 2024 election & possibly succeed, says retired Judge Michael Luttig.

https://twitter.com/johnson_carrie/stat ... 1972661248
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