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gounion wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:10 pm And yes, Glenn, who asserts to be pro-gay, supports this law 100%!
Glennfs is not pro-gay, He is pro-government repression of nonconformists. These people are also pro-sex with girls like in that proposed new Tennessee GOP law, and project their own nauseating, predatory fantasies onto trans girls and women.

The same people label us the perverts.
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Glennfs wrote: Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:59 amIt is for children age 8 or under.
This law mandates that school officials have to tell parents if their kid says they're gay, and opens up doors to frivolous lawsuits against schools and districts.

You support the destruction of families and public schools, since you're pro-conformist and anti-education, just like that idiot Betsy DeVos.

This is why both of you support that idiot Ron DeSantis.

#DonaldTrumpLovesTheUndereducated
So basically teachers shouldn't be discussing adult relationships with children who still believe in Santa
^the perverted implication here is that these imagined discussions of "adult relationships" have the purpose of sexually grooming children. You're once again parroting Heritage Foundation ideology intended to destroy families and public schools.

This really rich coming from the party of human traffickers and child groomers, who make laws promoting laws that eliminate age of consent for marriage.
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People who support these kinds of laws are drudging up old Lavender Scare and Briggs Initiative tactics that rely on stereotypes of gays as child predators. They even think trans children are child predators. :?

That's interesting, because the Republican party is full of child predators and the people who support them with their votes.

I'm not sending hits to this trash but you can follow it yourself to see where Glennfs gets his braindead talking points from.

Corporate Media’s “Don’t Say Gay” Narrative Fails — Florida Senate Passes Parental Rights Bill
https:// heritageaction.com/ press/corporate-medias-dont-say-gay-narrative-fails-florida-senate-passes-parental-rights-bill
From the fact-sheet: “Contrary to media hype, HB 1557 does not ban the word “gay” from the classroom. Rather, it protects kindergarteners to third-graders from teachers and other school officials who seek to sexualize children at very young ages. The bill would prevent school personnel from pushing planned instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity issues in kindergarten through third grade or in contexts that are not age-appropriate in later grades. The bill does not prohibit organic conversations between students and teachers, nor does it prohibit age-appropriate discussion of social issues including sexual orientation if it is in accordance with state standards.”
This is just more heteros-rule/forced-cisgenderism from the government. And they want LGBTQs to pay for it, just like their old strategies of government-forced segregation paid for by Black tax dollars.

More of this conservative propaganda in link, which has been broken on purpose.
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So many white conservative-Christian male perverts, tsk tsk.

SBC pastor Willy Rice dismisses deacon and Florida ‘faith adviser’ over past - Religion News Service

The Slavery Baptist Convention is JoeMemphis's denomination, fwiw.
Rice had been a leading candidate for SBC president — during a year when an investigation into how the denomination handled abuse is underway.

A leading candidate for president of the Southern Baptist Convention is under fire for ordaining a former public school teacher with a history of sexual misconduct as a deacon. The former teacher ...
Hmm...
...now runs a faith-based nonprofit ...
Grifter.
and serves on a faith-based council that advises Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and the Florida legislature.

The Rev. Willy Rice, pastor of Calvary Church in Clearwater, Florida, told his congregation Friday (April 1) that one of the congregation’s leaders was stepping down due to a past “sexual sin that could also be described as abusive.”

Rice did not name the deacon, but he said church leaders had been aware of the deacon’s past misconduct
even worse than the Vatican...
and said it occurred long before they came to Calvary as a church member.
How interesting.

Somebody PLEASE keep these conservative males away from children, families, and public policy. :?
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:09 am Children need protection from big-government conservative whites like Ron De Santis and the rest of these Orban-lites. Children need protection from social conservatism in general, which is designed to destroy families and nonconformist individuals, particularly women and girls.

Glennfs merrily throws his vote at these predators because they are kindred spirits.
Here's one of glenn's Family Values conservatives that I have no doubt he supports.
Louisiana GOP official arrested for taping children's mouths shut at his Christian school

According to the Lafayette Daily Advertiser, Rev. John Raymond, a Louisiana Republican Party official and pastor, has been arrested on charges of child cruelty following reports that he taped children's mouths shut at a Christian school he runs.

"Raymond is headmaster of the non-denominational Lakeside Christian School in Slidell," reported Greg Hilburn. "'Our students are encouraged to walk daily with Christ as they grow in maturity and stature surrounded by a dedicated, nurturing faculty,' Lakeside's website describes the school. But WWL reported three students and their parents said the children were brought by Raymond to his office, where the children's mouths were closed with packing tape that wrapped around their heads."

"WWL's report said the children were sent back to class with the tape wrapped around their heads and mouths for 45 minutes 'until another school administrator began feeling uncomfortable about the situation and used scissors to remove the tape,'" Hillburn continued, noting that the children complained of pain and trouble breathing.

The report notes that Raymond is the credentials committee chair of the Louisiana Republican Party State Central Committee, and determines if there is a quorum during meetings. He was also a losing contestant on the reality TV show Survivor, and a contemporary story on the season described him as "bossy, dominating" and that he "irritated his tribemates."
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:18 am Glennfs is not pro-gay, He is pro-government repression of nonconformists. These people are also pro-sex with girls like in that proposed new Tennessee GOP law, and project their own nauseating, predatory fantasies onto trans girls and women.

The same people label us the perverts.
How many Pedo's are planning on taking a "Vacation" in Tennessee after this law is passed?

The dit wad Republican Governor will sign it. I hope he does not, but I think he will.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:51 am https:// heritageaction.com/ press/corporate-medias-dont-say-gay-narrative-fails-florida-senate-passes-parental-rights-bill
Yeah, again, more nonsense.

They claim the bill doesn't mention "gay" but it says sexual orientation and gender identity can't be discussed at all in K-3. See, I know Sigmund Freud is out of favor these days (and not for bad reason), but he was right about one thing. As much as we try and shelter children from these questions and tell them babies come from storks, even before puberty they have questions. "Teacher, why does Heather have two mommies?" And now teachers are forbidden from answering.

All this bill does is prevent teachers from discussing and answering. And again, to be clear, what are they protecting children from? Teachers were not showing graphic sex technique diagrams in 3rd grade, nor were they "grooming" any children. But look, research increasingly shows if children are, let's say, "gender-nonconforming," they start having these feelings and impressions early, and of course, now school adults and teachers can't discuss them, and if they haven't told their parents, the law forces the school to tell them. This is wrong.
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ProfX wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:48 pm Yeah, again, more nonsense.

They claim the bill doesn't mention "gay" but it says sexual orientation and gender identity can't be discussed at all in K-3. See, I know Sigmund Freud is out of favor these days (and not for bad reason), but he was right about one thing. As much as we try and shelter children from these questions and tell them babies come from storks, even before puberty they have questions. "Teacher, why does Heather have two mommies?" And now teachers are forbidden from answering.
All this bill does is prevent teachers from discussing and answering.
Yes the district gets sued by some undereducated, propagandized Heritage Foundation parent if they answer.

Public schools and other public institutions stopped catering solely to conservative white paranoia 70s years ago. The openly stated goal of anti-CRT/anti-LGBTQ in schools is simply manipulating dummkopfs like Glennfs into supporting this legislation that targets minority families with the strategy of suing public schools out of existence to get back at them for including all public school students.

Since 1954, they have never gotten over the government forcing them to do so, at least on paper.
And again, to be clear, what are they protecting children from?
Children need to be protected from conservative Christians and their violent nationalism, including the Vatican, conservative Evangelicalism, and politicized Christian Orthodoxy in the US. Those are the people backing these antihomo bills. No other religions; not even the whackodoodle rightwing Islamists or rightwing whackodoodle frum, neither of which have anywhere near the numbers of these vicious conservative Christians.

Even with that, not even the rightwing whackodoodle self-loathing not-white conservative Christians have anywhere near the sheer numbers of conservative Christian whites, be they as they may in solidarity with them, and trying to impress them.

Conservative-Christian whites, especially the men, are the biggest predators in town. They have been, since the slavery era.
Teachers were not showing graphic sex technique diagrams in 3rd grade, nor were they "grooming" any children. But look, research increasingly shows if children are, let's say, "gender-nonconforming," they start having these feelings and impressions early, and of course, now school adults and teachers can't discuss them, and if they haven't told their parents, the law forces the school to tell them. This is wrong.
It's wrong, and this is also the same old violent public policy these confederates and colonizers have been pulling for centuries.
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It doesn't take much to exploit dumb conservative rubes like Glennfs, Bluedogdem/Green Ass, JoeMemphis, etc.

All you have to do is appeal to legendary conservative anti-immigrant hate, anti-minority racism, religious chauvinism, special rights for straights, and general xenophobic mentality. Then link to your Venmo and hit refresh on your balances.
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Number6 wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:12 pm Here's one of glenn's Family Values conservatives that I have no doubt he supports.
#prolife
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:18 am Glennfs is not pro-gay, He is pro-government repression of nonconformists. These people are also pro-sex with girls like in that proposed new Tennessee GOP law, and project their own nauseating, predatory fantasies onto trans girls and women.

The same people label us the perverts.
No the only difference between your opinion and mine is when it comes to sports and I don't believe it is proper to discuss adult relationships and issues with 4 year olds
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ProfX wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:48 pm Yeah, again, more nonsense.

They claim the bill doesn't mention "gay" but it says sexual orientation and gender identity can't be discussed at all in K-3. See, I know Sigmund Freud is out of favor these days (and not for bad reason), but he was right about one thing. As much as we try and shelter children from these questions and tell them babies come from storks, even before puberty they have questions. "Teacher, why does Heather have two mommies?" And now teachers are forbidden from answering.

All this bill does is prevent teachers from discussing and answering. And again, to be clear, what are they protecting children from? Teachers were not showing graphic sex technique diagrams in 3rd grade, nor were they "grooming" any children. But look, research increasingly shows if children are, let's say, "gender-nonconforming," they start having these feelings and impressions early, and of course, now school adults and teachers can't discuss them, and if they haven't told their parents, the law forces the school to tell them. This is wrong.
Sexual orientation also includes straight as well as gay
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I know that, grasshopper. You also left out bisexuality. :D

A 3rd grade teacher who says "there are gay people and straight people in this world" has just violated the law, because that is a discussion of sexual orientation, something once again the law says you can't even mention or discuss in any way in K-3.
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ProfX wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:20 pm I know that, grasshopper. You also left out bisexuality. :D

A 3rd grade teacher who says "there are gay people and straight people in this world" has just violated the law, because that is a discussion of sexual orientation, something once again the law says you can't even mention or discuss in any way in K-3.
You are taking the subject to the extremes. But, a parent can also complain about a teacher who speaks about hetero relationships.
Because we are talking about children between 4 and 8 I have no problem with the law.
Finally I have many relatives who favor school prayer. Until you bring up Jewish prayer, Muslim prayer, Hindu prayer, etc.
Well let's apply that logic here. Suppose little 6 year old Johnny asks his teacher who is an evangelical Christian that believes all gay people are going to hell about little Susie's 2 dad's.
I somehow doubt many folks here would welcome her answer.[including me]
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:23 pm No the only difference between your opinion and mine is when it comes to sports
You've never played on a womens' or girls' sports team in your stupid cishetero male life. Your uninformed opinion is molded by anti-trans propaganda from old Republican sycophants like Caitlyn Jenner and terfs like Martina Navritalova.
and I don't believe it is proper to discuss adult relationships and issues with 4 year olds
^sez the guy who f'ed a 15 year old girl at the age of 19.

You're the groomer around here.

Plus, you guys are lying, since you're the ones shoving toddlers into sexualized relationships.

When it comes to getting the government to repress LGBTQ people you speak out of your cognitive dissonance mouth and proclaim to be pro-gay while your intent is supporting laws and politicians that suppress our rights.

No different than what you guys did during segregation. You expect us to foot the bill for it.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:43 pm You've never played on a womens' or girls' sports team in your stupid cishetero male life. Your uninformed opinion is molded by anti-trans propaganda from old Republican sycophants like Caitlyn Jenner and terfs like Martina Navritalova.



^sez the guy who f'ed a 15 year old girl at the age of 19.

You're the groomer around here.

Plus, you guys are lying, since you're the ones shoving toddlers into sexualized relationships.

When it comes to getting the government to repress LGBTQ people you speak out of your cognitive dissonance mouth and proclaim to be pro-gay while your intent is supporting laws and politicians that suppress our rights.

No different than what you guys did during segregation. You expect us to foot the bill for it.
Way to distort a love story that has endured over 45 years. Shows what a disgusting person you truly are.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:45 pm Way to distort a love story that has endured over 45 years.
You're a groomer like the rest of these people such as Donald Trump, Strom Thurmond, Thomas Jefferson, Brett Kavanaugh, and the rest. That's why you are so passionate about defending these perverts. :problem:

Intellectually, it is understandable, though, since white conservative culture is based in human trafficking and patriarchal sexual abuse of human-trafficked women.

If you're in doubt, simply look to the year 1492.

So it's no wonder why white nationalists like Marjorie Taylor Green, the conservative white women who vote for Donald Trump and Roy Moore, and you, keep voting in these QAnon perverts who then create laws like in Tennessee, which eliminate the age of consent for marriage.

It also explains why you endorse anti-family measures like Ron De Santis's anti-LGBTQ families laws.

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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:30 pm But, a parent can also complain about a teacher who speaks about hetero relationships.
Concur. That is equally idiotic. :roll: That said, I would put a few donuts on that some male math teacher talking about "snuggling" with his wife last night will generate zero complaints, whereas with the right (i.e. wrong) parents a gay male teacher just mentioning he went somewhere with his husband, will.... (btw from the parents, not the kids) ...
Because we are talking about children between 4 and 8 I have no problem with the law.
Because children start asking questions about gender and gender identity before age 8, I do. The research to date shows that children who show gender nonconformity may start doing it around age 4-5. They have questions. I don't believe there should be an iron wall saying they can't get any answers before age 8.

Now we've had this discussion, but I'll add while I would delay any discussion of transitioning past K-3, I don't think any discussion of it should be delayed to 18. This is the problem with that undefined phrase "age appropriate".
I somehow doubt many folks here would welcome her answer.[including me]
Depending on the school environment and situation, that could be very problematic, and was long before this law.
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Oh my goodness, civilization is collapsing because of trans people!

And yet.. is she parrotting Glennfs or is Glennfs parrotting her. :?:

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This kind of rhetoric is intended to be dangerous, and incite anti-LGBTQ violence.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:30 pm You are taking the subject to the extremes.
These nanny-state, big government laws are the extremes, and are extremist by design.

That's why you support them.
But, a parent can also complain about a teacher who speaks about hetero relationships.
Because we are talking about children between 4 and 8 I have no problem with the law.
Finally I have many relatives who favor school prayer. Until you bring up Jewish prayer, Muslim prayer, Hindu prayer, etc.
Well let's apply that logic here. Suppose little 6 year old Johnny asks his teacher who is an evangelical Christian that believes all gay people are going to hell about little Susie's 2 dad's.
I somehow doubt many folks here would welcome her answer.[including me]
:? what a ridiculous example.

Unlike social conservatives and other mindless conformists, "many folks here" don't need the gubbamint to censor either heterosexual teachers, or Evangelical Christian teachers.

Heterosexuals have never, EVER, been oppressed or denied civil rights on the basis of their sexuality, so it's pointless to pretend this anti-LGBTQ law is somehow about equality. :?

Fact is, it's Evangelical Christians -- who also have never been persecuted for their hate-based beliefs -- that are the people behind these repressive laws.

Furthermore, imposition of Evangelical Christian or any other religion on public school students is already illegal. Please inform your low-information relatives who think they're going to get prayer in schools back.
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Yes, MTG and the cons here who defend her and vote for her (if they say they dont they are lying) INTEND to use their form of govt to physically harm the LGBTQ community and others.

In Texas they arrested a Woman for having an abortion

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STARR COUNTY, Texas (KVEO) – A woman has been charged with murder after Texas authorities say she performed a “self-induced abortion.”

Lizelle Herrera, 26, was arrested on Thursday by the Starr County Sheriff’s Office and charged with murder. Starr County is located near the U.S.-Mexico border and the southern tip of Texas.

According to a sheriff’s office spokesperson, Herrera was arrested after it was learned she “intentionally and knowingly cause the death of an individual by self-induced abortion.”

Herrera remains in the custody of the Starr County Sheriff’s Office at this time on a $500 thousand bond.

This case remained under investigation Friday.
as SOME of us said years ago, these people mean to KILL or JAIL or DEPORT all of us.
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Tshibaka Says Make Mailing Abortion Pills Federal Crime in Resurfaced Video - Newsweek
video has recently resurfaced online of Republican candidate for Alaska's Senate Kelly Tshibaka calling for the federal criminalization of in-mail abortion and birth control pills.

Tshibaka, who has been endorsed by former President Donald Trump, said during a meeting with supporters that was captured on cellphone video last month that she wants "to make it illegal" to send abortion pills in the mail under a potential criminal act that would allow postal services to block those pills from reaching recipients.

Though the GOP candidate, who is running for Senator Lisa Murkowski's seat in the state's upcoming midterm election, noted that she needs to think the idea through, she said that the potential act would "prosecute" the recipient, the drug maker, the sender, and the "whole chain there."

When one of the attendees at the meeting asked her whether or not birth control pills would also fall under that same category, she responded that "it would."
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And these are the mainstream faces of today’s GOP.

The “small government stay out of other people’s lives party of freedom” wants full control over everyone and everything.
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Forbidding birth control pills from being shipped in the mail brings us back to the 1920s and 30s Comstock Laws, which were passed, to do exactly that... they declared birth control an "obscene" material to send through the mail ... this is what Margaret Sanger founder of PP fought against ... the very ones finally overturned by Griswold vs. CT in 1965. Reactionaries ... always trying to move things backwards. :|
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carmenjonze wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:46 pm We have been watching so-called whites like Amy Wax struggle to throw in their lot with white supremacism, and then turn around and make a big show of trashing every next generation of immigrants, since before the founding of this country.

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Penn Law professor Amy Wax tells Tucker Carlson that "Blacks" and other "non-western" groups harbor "resentment, shame, and envy" against western people for their "outsized achievements and contributions."

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Wax then attacks Indian immigrants for criticizing things in the US when "their country is a shithole" and goes on to say that "the role of envy and shame in the way that the third world regards the first world [...] creates ingratitude of the most monstrous kind."

https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1513561069070999553
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