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There is no bigger liar or corrupt human on earth than Donald Trump

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Donald Trump is the leader of the GOP.

Several members of THIS BOARD are looking forward to voting for the most corrupt humans on earth.

I dont know how else to say this. :twisted:

And it is not that they are GOING to stand by and do nothing when MAGA comes after patriots, it is that they are standing by NOW and doing nothing. They are the enemy of the country, and for that matter the world.
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One would be hard-pressed to beat Putin in terms of money made from corruption, but I get your point.
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Libertas wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:32 pm Several members of THIS BOARD are looking forward to voting for the most corrupt humans on earth.
I was just about to say.

There are indeed even bigger and more corrupt, lying, snivelling people on earth and they sit around here and demand unity with them and subordination to their agenda.

The only people more vile than conservative politicians are the constituents that vote for them.
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Libertas wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:32 pm Donald Trump is the leader of the GOP.

Several members of THIS BOARD are looking forward to voting for the most corrupt humans on earth.

I dont know how else to say this. :twisted:

And it is not that they are GOING to stand by and do nothing when MAGA comes after patriots, it is that they are standing by NOW and doing nothing. They are the enemy of the country, and for that matter the world.
To the best of my knowledge there is not even one trump voter on this board.

What I have figured out is people here and probably progressives in general equate any criticism of one person or party as support for the other.

Which is why folks here cannot name even one conservative idea they support. Also why folks here consider Jimmy Carter our 26th best president to have done a better job than our 9th best president
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:22 am To the best of my knowledge there is not even one trump voter on this board.

What I have figured out is people here and probably progressives in general equate any criticism of one person or party as support for the other.
Incorrect.

"People here" see what you actually do write in support of, and the politicians and policies you actively endorse.

You and that other idiot JoeMemphis run around here acting as if you have no post history to go on.
Which is why folks here cannot name even one conservative idea they support.
Conservatives don't even support so-called conservative ideas. Especially not you social conservatives, who are trying once again to legislate the government back into the doctors' office and the bedroom.

Today there is every reason in the world to be closed to any type of American conservatism, including conservative libertarianism. Traditionally, it's been you guys who advocate and implement the worst forms of authoritarianism here, and support of some of the world's worst dictators abroad.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:37 am Incorrect.

"People here" see what you actually do write in support of, and the politicians and policies you actively endorse.

You and that other idiot JoeMemphis run around here acting as if you have no post history to go on.



Conservatives don't even support so-called conservative ideas. Especially not you social conservatives, who are trying once again to legislate the government back into the doctors' office and the bedroom.

Today there is every reason in the world to be closed to any type of American conservatism, including conservative libertarianism. Traditionally, it's been you guys who advocate and implement the worst forms of authoritarianism here, and support of some of the world's worst dictators abroad.
No one should ever believe he didn't vote for Trump.

When Trump first ran he was probably too embarrassed to admit he voted for him, so he kept up with that lie through 2020.

This seems evident because:

1. He constantly trashes HRC and Biden, both before and after the elections. And he constantly spreads disinformation about them.
2. He supports Trumpist policies.
3. He supports Trumpist candidates and sycophants.
4. He constantly parrots Trump's lies.
5. He constantly defends Trump with regards to legal liability. He dismisses plain as day facts and attempts to bend reality. See impeachment crimes and J6.
6. He full supports Ron DeSantis, who is an authoritarian extremist and just as bad as Trump.
7. He's a liar.
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Drak wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:07 pm No one should ever believe he didn't vote for Trump.

When Trump first ran he was probably too embarrassed to admit he voted for him, so he kept up with that lie through 2020.

This seems evident because:

1. He constantly trashes HRC and Biden, both before and after the elections. And he constantly spreads disinformation about them.
2. He supports Trumpist policies.
3. He supports Trumpist candidates and sycophants.
4. He constantly parrots Trump's lies.
5. He constantly defends Trump with regards to legal liability. He dismisses plain as day facts and attempts to bend reality. See impeachment crimes and J6.
6. He full supports Ron DeSantis, who is an authoritarian extremist and just as bad as Trump.
7. He's a liar.
If I or anyone else here had voted for trump what reason would they have for denying it?
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:17 pm If I or anyone else here had voted for trump what reason would they have for denying it?
You're proven liars and believers in lies.

You support and seek to vote for Trump policies, Trump politicians, Trump-endorsed ideologies, and people even worse than Trump, like Ron DeSantis.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:23 pm You're proven liars and believers in lies.

You support and seek to vote for Trump policies, Trump politicians, Trump-endorsed ideologies, and people even worse than Trump, like Ron DeSantis.
I support lots of conservative ideas:

1. formation of the EPA and protection of the environment
2. extended oversight of the Pentagon and military spending
3. fair taxation
4. voting rights
5. civil rights

And more, were at one time considered to be not just democratic or liberal ideas, but many on both sides supported. And when they did not support the proper and intelligent thing they did not treat the other side with the "no compromise" thing Gingrich came up with. They knew that there had to be compromise.

Problem is TODAY'S gop, today's cons do not support these and many more.

Board con has no clue what true conservatism even means.
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Drak wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:07 pm No one should ever believe he didn't vote for Trump.

When Trump first ran he was probably too embarrassed to admit he voted for him, so he kept up with that lie through 2020.

This seems evident because:

1. He constantly trashes HRC and Biden, both before and after the elections. And he constantly spreads disinformation about them.
2. He supports Trumpist policies.
3. He supports Trumpist candidates and sycophants.
4. He constantly parrots Trump's lies.
5. He constantly defends Trump with regards to legal liability. He dismisses plain as day facts and attempts to bend reality. See impeachment crimes and J6.
6. He full supports Ron DeSantis, who is an authoritarian extremist and just as bad as Trump.
7. He's a liar.
Anybody who proclaims being progay or prochoice and also a DeSantis voter lies firstly to themselves.

But then, this confederate supports Muslim bans, thinks whites are discriminated against, yet wishes to think of himself as pro-minority.

He is a misogynist looking to criminalize abortion providers and abortion seekers, yet has convinced himself he's protecting women's sports teams by supporting discriminatory laws that target trans women and girls.

So no wonder these corrupt people then come on here and lie to the rest of us. They lie to themselves as soon as they get up in the morning.
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:28 pm I support lots of conservative ideas:

1. formation of the EPA and protection of the environment
2. extended oversight of the Pentagon and military spending
3. fair taxation
4. voting rights
5. civil rights

And more, were at one time considered to be not just democratic or liberal ideas, but many on both sides supported.

Problem is TODAY'S gop, today's cons do not support these and many more.
Well, none of these ideas are conservative, they're liberal ideas implemented by liberals except for the EPA under Nixon.

Conservatives are sky's-the-limit on military-anything.

They were never for fair taxation: look at their behavior during the Cold War/Jim Crow eras. They never complained about taxes, then.

Conservatives were and still are behind the most repressive vote suppression in North America, and supported vote-suppression by rightwing dictators all over Latin/Central America throughout the 19th and 20th centuries.

Conservatives consider "civil rights" to be communism.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:32 pm Well, none of these ideas are conservative, they're liberal ideas implemented by liberals except for the EPA under Nixon.

Conservatives are sky's-the-limit on military-anything.

They were never for fair taxation: look at their behavior during the Cold War/Jim Crow eras. They never complained about taxes, then.

Conservatives were and still are behind the most repressive vote suppression in North America, and supported vote-suppression by rightwing dictators all over Latin/Central America throughout the 19th and 20th centuries.

Conservatives consider "civil rights" to be communism.
I meant there were cons historically who supported these or did not obstruct them. Not many, but they existed.

But you are right, in general no. The main point is the board con has no idea what conservatism means, he knows what white supremacy means.
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:28 pm And more, were at one time considered to be not just democratic or liberal ideas, but many on both sides supported. And when they did not support the proper and intelligent thing they did not treat the other side with the "no compromise" thing Gingrich came up with. They knew that there had to be compromise.

Problem is TODAY'S gop, today's cons do not support these and many more.

Board con has no clue what true conservatism even means.
TBH I do not think the conservative problem is limited to Gingrich and later.

Though it is true, many of these dumb fascists would run even him and Reagan out on a rail.

Conservatism, especially white conservatism, has certainly gotten more overtly extremist in the past generation, e.g. since Gingrich.

They're right on principle, that the gubbamint doesn't have to be involved in every aspect of individual personal life, but they've never followed through on that, especially when it comes to what they think the government's role is in regulating not-white life, not-straight life, and not-male life.

These are the same people who set up laws to regulate what water fountain somebody could drink out of, where they could sit on some public bus, or what day they could go to the public library. Now, they're back to banning books, outright.

If you protested these conditions, you were a communist who they said -- ironically -- wanted central government control of everything everyone did. :?

They still call us communists to this day. This is how petty and virulent conservatives are, be it in the past, or today.
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WHITE conservatism, yes, is the distinction.

And CHRISTIAN conservatives. Reading the history of conservatism we see the terrible influence of these folks.
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:38 pm I meant there were cons historically who supported these or did not obstruct them. Not many, but they existed.
Ha, name one.
But you are right, in general no. The main point is the board con has no idea what conservatism means, he knows what white supremacy means.
I'm joking but I'm also not joking about naming even one normal conservative.

There are indeed a few, but nobody can name them because they did not get support at the time, and they sure as hell are swept under the rug, today.

I used to think that about so-called pro-choice Republicans, and even defend them to a tiny degree. Same for a couple Black Republicans of the previous generation, people like Condi and Colin, because I understand them.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:44 pm Ha, name one.



I'm joking but I'm also not joking about naming even one normal conservative.

There are indeed a few, but nobody can name them because they did not get support at the time, and they sure as hell are swept under the rug, today.

I used to think that about so-called pro-choice Republicans, and even defend them to a tiny degree. Same for a couple Black Republicans of the previous generation, people like Condi and Colin, because I understand them.
Knew you were gonna do that :lol: ...I cant name one now. What I remember is when the parties compromised, because they knew that is how a democracy works and progresses.

It is not all Gingrich as you say but he said it out loud and made it OK for these cons to oppose our democracy and the values we are based on.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:17 pm If I or anyone else here had voted for trump what reason would they have for denying it?
Why do people like greengrass come here and pretend to be "blue dog democrats"?

You've been around the board for a long time, Glenn. You know that conservatives play this game a lot - it's far easier to attack the other side than to defend your own views.

For someone who doesn't support Trump, you spend your time defending him. It's why you have little credibility on him - you NEVER come up with your own complaints on him, and you always play your support games for him. Even with all the evidence mounting, you still say he didn't do anything wrong on Jan 6th, and the insurrection was just a protest gone wrong.

It's funny how you said "show me ONE indictment" and then, when they started indictments, you pivoted from that, and no matter what happens, you won't ever admit it was more than a bad protest. Why is that?
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gounion wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:46 pm Why do people like greengrass come here and pretend to be "blue dog democrats"?

You've been around the board for a long time, Glenn. You know that conservatives play this game a lot - it's far easier to attack the other side than to defend your own views.

For someone who doesn't support Trump, you spend your time defending him. It's why you have little credibility on him - you NEVER come up with your own complaints on him, and you always play your support games for him. Even with all the evidence mounting, you still say he didn't do anything wrong on Jan 6th, and the insurrection was just a protest gone wrong.

It's funny how you said "show me ONE indictment" and then, when they started indictments, you pivoted from that, and no matter what happens, you won't ever admit it was more than a bad protest. Why is that?
Con doesn't understand or pretends not to that voting for anyone in the GOP is voting not just for trump, but for what trump wants to do to YOU AND ME! Which is why I hate them and wont talk to them...I said this years ago, today's con is no different than an armed Nazi WW2 soldier.
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:41 pm WHITE conservatism, yes, is the distinction.

And CHRISTIAN conservatives. Reading the history of conservatism we see the terrible influence of these folks.
And all the mass murder behind them.

It's really interesting to read the Indiana KKK publications of the 1920s, when they had the immense political power they became famous for. Also the same time period that they became infamous for the worst of their vigilante violence.

It's a really good study in why conservative whites today are also so dishonest with themselves. The bulk of the rhetoric is against Catholics and any immigrants they perceive as Catholic. Some antisemitism, too. The nationwide mass murder they reserved for African Americans. Wisely, they don't talk about it in their publications.

Conservative like Glennfs do the same with the Don't Say Gay law, based on the same tactics. They position much of their antigay ideology under "religious freedom," which is really just conservative-Christian supremacism. They sure as heck don't believe in "religious freedom" for liberal Catholics or Protestants, liberal Jews, Muslims of any political persuasion, and Christian Orthodoxy, Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism is the devil to them, unless they think they can get a token antigay or anti-abort vote.

The secular anti-LGBTQ arguments are also based in their supremacism, but focus on b.s. issues like bathrooms, locker rooms, and sports. Meanwhile, these people support laws that criminalize families for supporting their trans children, and they seek to rescind samesex marriage and adoption using the "becuz the children" circular logic.

Then they want to look up our daughter's skirts to see what's under there before she plays on the sports team, everybody knows about the prolife pedophile priests and QAnon Southern Baptist Convention pastors. All male. Just like every single mass murderer in modern history. :problem:
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:49 pm I said this years ago, today's con is no different than an armed Nazi WW2 soldier.
They are the same people, and worse.

Consider that at the time, this country was very violently segregated, including the military fighting those Nazi soldiers.

These conservative whites were fine with Nazi POWs coming here and riding the front of the bus; not a joke, not trying to be funny, this is literal and historic.

They are literally every bit as bad as Nazi WW2 soldiers. Their offspring like the Proud Boys, Patriot Front, Dylann Roof, Payton Gendron, Charlottesville, etc...they are even worse than they are.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:04 pm They are the same people, and worse.

Consider that at the time, this country was very violently segregated, including the military fighting those Nazi soldiers.

These conservative whites were fine with Nazi POWs coming here and riding the front of the bus; not a joke, not trying to be funny, this is literal and historic.

They are literally every bit as bad as Nazi WW2 soldiers. Their offspring like the Proud Boys, Patriot Front, Dylann Roof, Payton Gendron, Charlottesville, etc...they are even worse than they are.
Did not know that prisoner story, but I believe it. As long as you are or were white, yep. Listening to Randi and she is talking about Alabama shooting last night I guess. I saw a story of an incel killing a coworker who wouldnt go out with him. Way too many of these stories to post them all, to keep up and it is the country these cons love to live in AS LONG as the violence never touches them!
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Libertas wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:11 pm Did not know that prisoner story, but I believe it. As long as you are or were white, yep. Listening to Randi and she is talking about Alabama shooting last night I guess. I saw a story of an incel killing a coworker who wouldnt go out with him. Way too many of these stories to post them all, to keep up and it is the country these cons love to live in AS LONG as the violence never touches them!
Here's a relatively recent story on it, but the people in these towns who had to put up with this
‘Are We Not American Soldiers?’ When the U.S. Military Treated German POWs Better Than Black Troops - Time
or Corporal Rupert Trimmingham, it came as no surprise that he’d have to eat inside the lunchroom’s kitchen, invisible to the diners enjoying table service. This was 1944, and the Deep South. Trimmingham and eight other Black soldiers were en route from Louisiana’s Camp Claiborne to Arizona’s Fort Huachuca and, as he later wrote, he knew the only boss was “Old Man Jim Crow…”

But what Trimmingham and his companions saw as they looked out at the lunchroom from inside that kitchen defied even their weary expectations. About two dozen German prisoners of war who entered with their American guards “sat at the tables, had their meals served, talked, smoked, in fact had quite a swell time.” In an April 1944 letter to Yank, a weekly Army magazine, Trimmingham asked the obvious: “Are these men”— Nazi troops who’d been captured while fighting on Hitler’s behalf—“sworn enemies of this country? Are we not American soldiers, sworn to fight for and die if need be for this our country? Then why are they treated better than we are?”
Rhetorical question, I guess. Literal Nazis were treated better thanks to their confederate cousins, every bit as white-supremacist, antisemitic, and murderous as they were.

Here's another. ENEMIES AMONG US: GERMAN POWS IN AMERICA - Washington Post, 1997
Aside from occasional work stoppages or slowdowns inspired by obstinate Nazis, prisoners generally performed well. Working 300 farms in Maine, New Hampshire and Massachusetts, for example, they were credited with saving the entire Maine pea crop, the greater part of the Massachusetts cabbage harvest and the entire New Hampshire apple crop, the New York Times noted in 1944. Baron von Wechmar, a former German prisoner who became a member of the European Parliament, quipped to Smithsonian magazine several years ago, "Thanks to my experience in Kansas and Oklahoma, I am an expert at harvesting broom corn and killing rattlesnakes."

Local people whose livelihood depended on German labor often doted on the workers, treating them to baked goods, inviting them into their homes, mending their clothes and generally welcoming them warmly. "They were just the best bunch of boys you ever saw in your life," a Texas farmer gushed to Smithsonian. Some people, often including the Germans themselves, saw the disturbing irony of enemy prisoners eating at lunch counters or drinking from fountains where African American citizens were not permitted or welcome. In fact, more strident Nazis cited such blatant racism to mock the U.S. claim to be fighting to save the world for democracy.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:17 pm If I or anyone else here had voted for trump what reason would they have for denying it?
I explained why. None of what you claim matches up with what you support and your defenses.

Nope, sorry. You lack any shred of credibility. You're a known liar and game player. You've been kicked off these boards multiple times for it. You've admitted several years ago that there are people you know in real life who referred to you as a liar, which you said upset you after you threw a temper tantrum on these boards when you were called out for that very thing. People I know in real life don't refer to me as a liar, because I'm not one. You probably bullshit so much you don't even know you're doing it. And you certainly don't remember things you've posted in the past, which is what happens when you don't have your stories straight - a known side effect of telling tales.
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Glennfs wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:22 am To the best of my knowledge there is not even one trump voter on this board.

What I have figured out is people here and probably progressives in general equate any criticism of one person or party as support for the other.

Which is why folks here cannot name even one conservative idea they support. Also why folks here consider Jimmy Carter our 26th best president to have done a better job than our 9th best president
Do you know why one conservative idea cannot be named that liberals support? Because there isn’t one. If you can provide one program, idea or bill worth supporting I would happily do so.

And you know where you can place your Ronnie The Dimwit worship.
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bird wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:09 pm Do you know why one conservative idea cannot be named that liberals support? Because there isn’t one. If you can provide one program, idea or bill worth supporting I would happily do so.

And you know where you can place your Ronnie The Dimwit worship.
This confederate doesn't support any liberal ideas, yet demands support from the very people conservatives are trying to repress.

F. this supremacist.
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