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Libertas wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:11 pm Did not know that prisoner story, but I believe it. As long as you are or were white, yep. Listening to Randi and she is talking about Alabama shooting last night I guess. I saw a story of an incel killing a coworker who wouldnt go out with him. Way too many of these stories to post them all, to keep up and it is the country these cons love to live in AS LONG as the violence never touches them!
Regarding the WWII Nazi POWs in this country, that is true. During WWII, the Navy held 500 German POWs here in Coronado at the Navy Amphibious Bases. I remember hearing about the German POWs in the late 60s and I remember reading about a German POW who visited the site back in 1974. Here's the link to that story https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=CJ19741121. ... N--------1
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Number6 wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:47 pm Regarding the WWII Nazi POWs in this country, that is true. During WWII, the Navy held 500 German POWs here in Coronado at the Navy Amphibious Bases. I remember hearing about the German POWs in the late 60s and I remember reading about a German POW who visited the site back in 1974. Here's the link to that story https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=CJ19741121. ... N--------1
Thanks for this link. Didn't know they were put up in Coronado, too.
The transport ship arrived in New York on Nov. 7, 1944. Karl was then sent to prison camps in Hannibal, Missouri; Reno, Oklahoma; El Paso, Texas and finally to the POW Camp at the Amphibious Training Base, Coronado. “They shipped us wherever they needed us”, he said.

Karl arrived at the Naval Amphibious Base in March 1945 with five other German POWs. At that time, the POW compound was an Army installation, located near the present base gymasium and enlisted barracks. The compound had its own mess hall, exchange, recreation areas and a large open-air theatre. There were 500 German POWs in camp then, under the direction of First Lieutenant T. C. Scofield, compound commander. As a prisoner, Karl was assigned mess cooking duties, carpentry work, machinists work, and laundry details. Since he was the camp interpreter, a lot of his time was spent supervising the work of other German POWs.

According to Karl, life here in prison camp was not bad at all. He earned 70 cents a day and two beer cards entitling him to two beers a day. “We had tennis courts, played ping-pong, horse shoes, no girls though. I had plenty to do because I taught the other POWs the English language in the evenings.” The POWs also did a lot of handicraft in their spare time, making leather belts, jewelry boxes, to trade for things with the sailors. On Wednesday evenings the base brought all types of entertainers to perform for the POWs at the openair theatre. The POWs also had their own theatre group and Karl acted as interpreter for the shows, as officers from the base would come just to see, “What those knucklehead Germans could put on.”
Meanwhile, the same country incarcerated Japanese-American families, forced its own nonwhite soldiers into segregated units and segregated facilities, and continued to deny even basic rights to returning not-white soldiers and our families.

30 years later they'd have puff pieces written about them.

Good luck to anyone trying to find even one conservative who protested these conditions.
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carmenjonze wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:23 pm You're proven liars and believers in lies.

You support and seek to vote for Trump policies, Trump politicians, Trump-endorsed ideologies, and people even worse than Trump, like Ron DeSantis.
Thank you for making my point. I have no problem admitting that Ron Desantis is currently our country's best hope at pulling us out of our current condition.
Yet somehow you believe I wouldn't admit to being a trumper
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:12 am Thank you for making my point. I have no problem admitting that Ron Desantis is currently our country's best hope at pulling us out of our current condition.
Yet somehow you believe I wouldn't admit to being a trumper
Ron DeSantis IS Trump.

In what way would Ron DeSantis “pull us out our current condition” and please define “our current condition”.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:12 am Thank you for making my point.
I didn’t make your doddering, confused point

Try a different tactic.
I have no problem admitting that Ron Desantis is currently our country's best hope at pulling us out of our current condition.
Yet somehow you believe I wouldn't admit to being a trumper
Your entire party is Trumpist and DeSantis is a dirty, fascist confederate just like you are.

But yes, do keep on with whatever counterintuitive point you’re trying to make.
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bird wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:54 am Ron DeSantis IS Trump.

In what way would Ron DeSantis “pull us out our current condition” and please define “our current condition”.
Our current condition is majority rule with equal rights.

Conservative whites think that condition is an existential threat.
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Conservatives don’t even have their story line straight about what they stand for. It’s nothing more than cheering for a brand/cult. Ron Desantis is just as bad if not worse than Trump. He’s a bigoted highly corrupt RW authoritarian who doesn’t believe in free speech, demands businesses do his bidding or be punished, passes bigoted anti gay laws, doesn’t believe women have rights over their own bodies, etc.

Republicans don’t believe in freedom, or any of the things they pretend they do. They just want a faux strong man daddy figure to rule over them.
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Professor on vacation?

Haven’t seen him in a while
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The GOP trashes the American economy every time it’s in power. Then blame the next guy. Rinse repeat.

What current condition is Ron DeSantis going to pull America out of? Unemployment is low. Is he going to make unemployment high again, like it was under Trump?

Is he going to ask his conservative buddies who own big oil to stop the nefarious world wide price gouging, since price per barrel is low and doesn’t reflect the high prices at the pump? Is he going to curb world wide inflation, caused in large by a multi year pandemic that slowed/shut down production and shipping across the planet?

Are the local cons going to stop parroting lies about gas prices and inflation, and look outside the deep red bubble of bullshit they surround themselves in, and educate? Nah, of course not.
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bird wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:09 pm Do you know why one conservative idea cannot be named that liberals support? Because there isn’t one. If you can provide one program, idea or bill worth supporting I would happily do so.

And you know where you can place your Ronnie The Dimwit worship.
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I’m of the opinion it’s time congress creates a secured enclave of homes for the nine justices and families. Maybe do the same for members of congress. A family should be secure in their home.
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Bludogdem wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:36 pm Security for Supreme Court justices?

I’m of the opinion it’s time congress creates a secured enclave of homes for the nine justices and families. Maybe do the same for members of congress. A family should be secure in their home.
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Drak wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:38 pm Straight off Fox News.
Always. They cant think for themselves, if they ever did, and they could, they would realize EVERYTHING they believe is a lie and that is too uncomfortable for them.
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Bludogdem wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:36 pm Security for Supreme Court justices?

I’m of the opinion it’s time congress creates a secured enclave of homes for the nine justices and families. Maybe do the same for members of congress. A family should be secure in their home.
I am of the opinion, bullshit.

Why stop at the SCOTUS? Why not every federal judge?

Kavanaugh was under little to no threat. The guy even called the cops.

Where is the call for security when a RW whack job calls for Democrats to be shot?

Beyond that the federal government is already seen as disconnected from the rest of the population. A gated community would reinforce that belief.
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gounion wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:46 pm Why do people like greengrass come here and pretend to be "blue dog democrats"?

You've been around the board for a long time, Glenn. You know that conservatives play this game a lot - it's far easier to attack the other side than to defend your own views.

For someone who doesn't support Trump, you spend your time defending him. It's why you have little credibility on him - you NEVER come up with your own complaints on him, and you always play your support games for him. Even with all the evidence mounting, you still say he didn't do anything wrong on Jan 6th, and the insurrection was just a protest gone wrong.

It's funny how you said "show me ONE indictment" and then, when they started indictments, you pivoted from that, and no matter what happens, you won't ever admit it was more than a bad protest. Why is that?
This is a great point. It's all games. Pretend to have a link to the left in order to attack the left with pretend credibility. Green Grass pretends to be a Blue Dog Dem in order to attack the left from the left. Joe pretends he's against government interference and over reach and both sides are the same, but votes for the most extreme government over reach pro Trump candidates out there like Marsha Blackburn and Ron DeSantis who don't represent what conservatives claim is actual conservatism. Glenn pretends he supports liberal policies but votes for extreme pro Trump RW candidates like Lindsey and DeSantis (Trump 2.0) and constantly attempts to defend Trump and deny reality. It's absurd they think they're fooling anyone.
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Drak wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:10 pm This is a great point. It's all games. Pretend to have a link to the left in order to attack the left with pretend credibility. Green Grass pretends to be a Blue Dog Dem in order to attack the left from the left. Joe pretends he's against government interference and over reach and both sides are the same, but votes for the most extreme government over reach pro Trump candidates out there like Marsha Blackburn and Ron DeSantis who don't represent what conservatives claim is actual conservatism. Glenn pretends he supports liberal policies but votes for extreme pro Trump RW candidates like Lindsey and DeSantis (Trump 2.0) and constantly attempts to defend Trump and deny reality. It's absurd they think they're fooling anyone.
They are actively voting for you and me to be killed. Not complicated.

If my doom and gloom is true, the following happens (I dont want it to happen, of course):

1. Garland while capable of indicting dozens of House, Senate and Trump admin officials including trump himself, as he has the evidence needed, indicts NONE of them in fear that it will be called political (which all board cons will do) and in fear of a backlash when the GOP takes over in November...

2. November red states refuse to certify elections they lose, but due to oil co's purposely gouging on gas
Gas is over $5 a gallon right now.

The last time a barrel of crude oil cost this much was in July 2014. At that point a gallon of gas only cost about $3.54.

Let’s be clear: Oil companies don’t need to be charging this much for gas. They’re just doing it to make excess profits.
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to a. make obscene profits and b. remove the politicians with the guts to regulate them, and worldwide inflation that Biden did not cause and cant resolve on his own, people will may vote out enough dems to give the house back to the fascists...

3. this could be prevented MAYBE if someone high up in the Dem party went on Meet The Press or similar and used the F word and got animated in describing the emergency we are in, or something like that, but nobody will do that...how would that help? Over 100 million of us did not vote 2020 because they saw no reason to, as insane as that sounds...most of them are NOT watching the hearings, they dont even own TV's...they have to be gotten to somehow...something has to go viral.

4. Biden is impeached but not convicted, Jan 6 committee members are investigated, etc. You and I and especially minority groups are in immediate grave physical danger from MAGA...


All the while board cons will sit back and smile. They will lose everything also, but as long as we are harmed they will be OK with that.

I want to be wrong, tell everyone you know their life is at stake and to vote and maybe if we overwhelm the numbers, then maybe the democracy survives.
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Bludogdem wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:36 pm Security for Supreme Court justices?

I’m of the opinion it’s time congress creates a secured enclave of homes for the nine justices and families. Maybe do the same for members of congress. A family should be secure in their home.
Or, the Supreme Court Justices can follow Ted Cruz's advice on how to strength security in schools by having the Justices live in homes with only one door.
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:12 am Thank you for making my point. I have no problem admitting that Ron Desantis is currently our country's best hope at pulling us out of our current condition.
Yet somehow you believe I wouldn't admit to being a trumper
If you think DeSantis is currently our country's best hope, please give tells us specifically what he would do on:

1. Inflation
2. Gun Violence
3. Voting rights
4. Abortion rights
5. Crime
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DeSantis is following the fascism playbook.
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Toonces wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:03 pm DeSantis is following the fascism playbook.
So is Glennfs.

I'd say it right out of the Weimar Republic, but it's really out of white-conservative, vote-suppression and violent vigilantism.

These people made laws out of all these behaviors, and they're trying to do it again.

Ron De Santis is literally their Great White Hope 2.0.
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carmenjonze wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:39 pm So is Glennfs.

I'd say it right out of the Weimar Republic, but it's really out of white-conservative, vote-suppression and violent vigilantism.

These people made laws out of all these behaviors, and they're trying to do it again.

Ron De Santis is literally their Great White Hope 2.0.
DeSantis' actions have been fascist and anti-science. The Republican Party doesn't have any platform. They've pushed social regression and there is no semblance of any coherent fiscal policies. Donald's signature legislation of tax cuts hasn't served the working class by any measure. Corporations haven't invested in their businesses nor their employees. So, as a truck driver, I can't see anything which would benefit Glen by supporting Republicans. Especially since Republicans are certainly more supportive of the so-called "gig economy" which puts drivers at the mercy of trucking companies. I can only assume that he supports civil rights rollbacks.

Has he expressed which, specific, Republican policies he benefits from and how? I've seen him complain about what other people get, be it social benefits or raising minimum wage.

Granted, I sometimes tend to get a superficial view of things because I'm not here all that often and when I am, I am so far behind on threads that my reading 'disabilities' make it difficult to catch up.
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Hey give Desantis a break, all he and the cons want is to move the clock back to 1955...

Yes, that does mean ALL non white xtian str8t males will be 2nd class citizens and their very right to breathe will be up to the fascists, but what is the big deal?

Obviously not a big deal to the ONE HUNDRED MILLION adults who didnt bother to vote in 2020 :twisted:
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Libertas wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:13 pm Hey give Desantis a break, all he and the cons want is to move the clock back to 1955...

Yes, that does mean ALL non white xtian str8t males will be 2nd class citizens and their very right to breathe will be up to the fascists, but what is the big deal?
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Toonces wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:08 pm DeSantis' actions have been fascist and anti-science. The Republican Party doesn't have any platform. They've pushed social regression and there is no semblance of any coherent fiscal policies. Donald's signature legislation of tax cuts hasn't served the working class by any measure. Corporations haven't invested in their businesses nor their employees. So, as a truck driver, I can't see anything which would benefit Glen by supporting Republicans. Especially since Republicans are certainly more supportive of the so-called "gig economy" which puts drivers at the mercy of trucking companies. I can only assume that he supports civil rights rollbacks.

Has he expressed which, specific, Republican policies he benefits from and how? I've seen him complain about what other people get, be it social benefits or raising minimum wage.

Granted, I sometimes tend to get a superficial view of things because I'm not here all that often and when I am, I am so far behind on threads that my reading 'disabilities' make it difficult to catch up.
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Toonces wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:52 pm If only they had a Delorean.
Good one!
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Glennfs wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:12 am Thank you for making my point. I have no problem admitting that Ron Desantis is currently our country's best hope at pulling us out of our current condition.
Yet somehow you believe I wouldn't admit to being a trumper
I had quite a few of my conservative friends tell me Trump was the best bet the first time around. i remember telling them they were being hoodwinked. 4 years later, some of them agreed and voted differently. If i were into run into one of them today, and they ended up telling me Desantis was the best hope? i'd tell them the same thing.
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