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Drak wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:20 pm More Kremlin messaging from the GOP

Kari Lake for AZ Governor
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They kicked God out of schools and welcomed the Drag Queens.

They took down our Flag and replaced it with a rainbow.

They seek to disarm Americans and militarize our Enemies.

Let’s bring back the basics:

God, Guns & Glory. 🇺🇸
Time to start thinking about how to defend ourselves.
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Libertas wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:22 pm Time to start thinking about how to defend ourselves.
Kari Lake is another one of these white-sheet sewing karens.

She is vile.
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Drak wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:20 pm More Kremlin messaging from the GOP

Kari Lake for AZ Governor
@KariLake
They kicked God out of schools and welcomed the Drag Queens.

They took down our Flag and replaced it with a rainbow.

They seek to disarm Americans and militarize our Enemies.

Let’s bring back the basics:

God, Guns & Glory. 🇺🇸
More like Ku Klux Klan.

There really needs to be a "Shut up, Karen" thread.
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100 years later, they're running for office and are House Reps, now.

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Glennfs wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:29 am Because I figured that was already obvious and didnt need saying. But OK that guy is an asshole. So now why don't you say he does not represent the right only his own beliefs.
Welp, the problem is that he represents a significant portion of the right. All on the right? Probably not. Many on the right? You betcha.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:29 am Because I figured that was already obvious and didnt need saying. But OK that guy is an asshole. So now why don't you say he does not represent the right only his own beliefs.
The're not simply "his own beliefs."

Your so-called beliefs align with his, not just on LGBTQ but the left and liberals in general.

Both you and James Lindsay make the same claims about "the left" and "woke" and Marxism and communism and the rest. :problem:

These are not mere "beliefs." This ideology is part of an entrenched tradition of white-conservative supremacism in the US, unmatched by any other group here. Not only do you share it, you espouse it on this board every day.
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Kicked out of the diocese because of a couple flags.

This is how petty conservatives are.

School’s Catholic Title in Peril Over Pride and Black Lives Matter Flags - NYC

I also have to wonder at this Bishop's intelligence. He sez:
In his decree, Bishop McManus states that while the church “stands unequivocally behind the phrase” Black Lives Matter, he believes the movement has used the phrase to contradict the Catholic teaching on “the importance and role of the nuclear family.”
:? okay... :? :? :?
And he opposed the Pride flag because it “represents support of gay marriage” and an L.G.B.T.Q. “lifestyle.” Those messages, he states, go against “Catholic social and moral teaching.”

But some parents and faculty members have questioned why his order came so close to Juneteenth, a holiday to commemorate the end of slavery that Black Americans have celebrated since the late 1800s, and in the middle of Pride Month, said Guillermo Creamer Jr., an alumnus of the Nativity School who now serves as one of its associate trustees.

Describing the bishop’s public order as “theatrics,” he asked: “Why now?”

The public nature of the order is “very telling to the true motive of this,” Mr. Creamer said.

Ray Delisle, a spokesman for the Diocese of Worcester, said in a statement that the bishop had waited to issue the order until the school year was over.

The decree’s language, Mr. Delisle added, “affirms our responsibility to love everyone regardless of race.”

The implications for the school do not appear to be severe, Mr. Creamer said. All of its funding comes from donors and not from the diocese, and its school operations are independent of the church, according to its website.

“As a multicultural school, the flags represent the inclusion and respect of all people,” Mr. McKenney wrote in his letter. “These flags simply state that all are welcome at Nativity and this value of inclusion is rooted in Catholic teaching.”

It is unclear how the appeals process will play out. In a similar case from 2019, the Archdiocese of Indianapolis told a Jesuit preparatory school that it would no longer be recognized as Catholic because of its refusal to fire a teacher who was in a same-sex marriage.

That case was appealed to the Vatican, which has still not made a decision, said Sandra Yocum, a professor of faith and culture at the University of Dayton in Ohio.

“This doesn’t happen too often probably because many Catholic schools don’t necessarily fly those particular flags,” she said.

For those that do, though, it’s unlikely that a similar clash will occur, she said.

“I don’t think it’s a thing that most bishops would want to seek to do,” Professor Yocum said, because it would draw negative attention.

Still, Mr. Creamer said he feared Bishop McManus’s order would lead to bishops taking similar measures in other parts of the country.

“At the end of the day, Jesus was reaching out to marginalized people,” he said. “And this is an attack on a marginalized group.”
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bird wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:56 pm Welp, the problem is that he represents a significant portion of the right. All on the right? Probably not. Many on the right? You betcha.
None of them oppose it or speak up against it, and most importantly, conservatives do nothing to stop any of these anti-LGBTQ/anti-trans attacks coming from their own ranks.

Not a one.
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The Bishop is saying Black Lives and families are not acceptable.
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I really do not understand why you white cons hate California so much.

There are tons and tons and tons of you here, taking a dump all over this state. And there always have been.
Glennfs wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:29 am Because I figured that was already obvious and didnt need saying. But OK that guy is an asshole. So now why don't you say he does not represent the right only his own beliefs.
Hey, did you attend Hate Pride today?

Annual Modesto straight pride event met with backlash - KXTV, video

Interesting title. So-called straight pride is the backlash. Not the other way around.
The California Straight Pride Coalition held its fourth annual 'Straight Pride' event in Modesto Saturday. The event took place outside of Planned Parenthood.

Several groups of counter protesters showed up to the event, saying the Straight Pride Coalition calls on "homophobes, white supremacists and Christian extremists to gather for a hate rally."

ABC10's crew attempted to get closer to the protest to speak with people from both the protest and the counter protest, but were met with push back from law enforcement.

The Modesto 'Straight Pride' event started in 2019.
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Glennfs wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:29 am Because I figured that was already obvious and didnt need saying. But OK that guy is an asshole. So now why don't you say he does not represent the right only his own beliefs.
Because enough people like Kari Lake, DeathSantis, Abbot, EmptyGreene (thanks for that one, Profx), Lauren Boebert, Louie Gohmert, et al spout near identical crap. His belief structure is far closer to the crap falling out of much of the Reich Wing’s mouth as to make any difference negligible.

YOU won’t admit that this is mainstream Republicanism when you KNOW damn well it is.
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bird wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:12 pm Because enough people like Kari Lake, DeathSantis, Abbot, EmptyGreene (thanks for that one, Profx), Lauren Boebert, Louie Gohmert, et al spout near identical crap. His belief structure is far closer to the crap falling out of much of the Reich Wing’s mouth as to make any difference negligible.

YOU won’t admit that this is mainstream Republicanism when you KNOW damn we’ll it is.
Bannon-hugger Ralph Norman (R - PPP Grifter) votes down the Equality Act and protecting LGBTQ and interracial marriage.

Glennfs eagerly supports this person, and will then also scream at me until he is blue in the face that he "supports gay rights." :problem:

This is the level of self-gaslighting these socially-confused conservative whites inflict on themselves. They really think it's going to work on the rest of us. :problem:
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Leader Of “Straight Pride” Rally In Modesto Embraces White Nationalism, Attacks Jews And LGBTQ Community As “Satanic” - IGD

Conservative whites have no business complaining about "Califiornia."

Except for our 3 population centers, i.e., where normal people wnat to actually live and conduct their lives, the rest of the state is red state.
In 2019, Grundmann, a former member of Operation Rescue, a militant anti-abortion organization that called for the killing of doctors, gained 15 minutes of fame after describing his latest organization, the “California Straight Pride Coalition,” as a “peaceful racist group” at a Modesto city council meeting. Those at the meeting, who in the hundreds had come out to demand that Grudmann’s group be denied a permit for their upcoming ‘Straight Pride’ parade, erupted into laughter.

The clip of Grundmann getting incredibly angry and flustered quickly went viral. But while liberals across the US were laughing at Grundmann safely from the comfort of their screens, behind the scenes, Grundmann was building a network that included faith leaders, members of fascist and militia groups, local Republican insiders, Qanon followers, and those opposed to vaccine mandates and masks – all while promoting an openly white nationalist platform that attacked Jews and the LGBTQ+ community. Some of those who took part in the yearly “Straight Pride” rallies outside of Planned Parenthood alongside Grundmann would go on to storm the Washington DC capitol on January 6th and some even became connected to a string of murders against law enforcement in the bay area carried out by Boogaloo Boys. In the months following Grundmann addressing the city council, local churches, synagogues, a Sikh temple, and the Modesto Pride center were all hit by racist and white supremacist violence and vandalism – a trend which has only escalated as time has gone on.
The Straight Pride rallies provided a much needed epicenter for far-Right networks on the West Coast, especially at a time when Proud Boy leaders in the East were facing heavy charges following the attempted coup in DC and declining numbers in the Pacific Northwest, in the face of mass anti-racist opposition. Modesto represented fertile ground for white nationalists with big dreams like Grundmann and groups like the Proud Boys looking to expand their numbers in conservative areas with limited opposition. In the post-J6 landscape, many groups associated with the attempted coup also changed their tactics, embedding themselves within GOP backed battles over mask and vaccine mandates, protests at school board meetings denouncing Critical Race Theory, and attacking LGBTQ people wherever possible.

And like in Portland, the far-Right in Modesto also found a police force which was more than willing to accommodate them. While the city council may have blocked their permit for a rally, the police were more than happy to facilitate their demonstrations by setting up barricades and shutting down streets, giving far-Right protesters control over the general area. Moreover, in the aftermath of the George Floyd rebellion, local law enforcement pushed the city of Modesto to pass new ordinances criminalizing largely defensive items utilized by antifascists at protests, while continuing to facilitate and protect non-permitted far-Right rallies. The message was clear: police were here to help facilitate the swarms of out of town neo-fascist groups descending upon Modesto for the yearly “Straight Pride” event: everyone else, watch out.
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