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bad day.
theyve found skin and bones from dinosaurs in ND, some appear they think to have died the day the asteroid hit.
the way to tell is by how they are covered and buried in the layers theyre now finding.
theyve got skin... :shock: 66million yr old skin.

https://www.space.com/dinosaur-apocalyp ... nction-day
Cretaceous asteroid armageddon ignites TV screens in 'Dinosaur Apocalypse' ---
By Patrick Pester published about 11 hours ago
A two-part special pieces together the dinosaurs' doomsday.

Fragment of the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs may have been found---
CNN15h

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019 ... saurs-died
April 8, 2019 Issue
The Day the Dinosaurs Died
A young paleontologist may have discovered a record of the most significant event in the history of life on Earth.
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NNM is running low on water. most water comes from wells, lakes and ponds are filled by snow melt.
since there is very little snow to melt...the lakes are being depleted by all the water tankers lifting
water for the fires.

there is concern for amount of drinking water left for LasVegas town. storrie lake is getting lower by the day.

this fire seems to be moving over the mountain range and going to affect MorenoValley...Angel Fire.
Eagle Nest lake is so low its shocking.
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Incredible bow echo

Bow echo hammers Minnesota. More than 75,000 without power at storm's peak.

Well, that was interesting.

A complex of severe storms raced across central and southern Minnesota Wednesday night. The storms began in southwest Minnesota, then morphed into what meteorologists call a classic “bow echo.” These bow-shaped systems on radar are notorious for producing damaging winds. And this one raced right through the Twin Cities between about 8 and 9 pm Wednesday evening.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2022/05/1 ... torms-peak
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Isn't a bow echo an indicator of a derecho if it gets big and lasts long enough? Derechos are common this time of year, and yes, climate change makes them worse and more frequent.

For the second year in a row, SoCal had its first major vegetation/ urban-wildland interface fire in May instead of the more typical November. Last May, it was Pacific Palisades and some of the Topanga wildland park. This May, it's a ridgeline in OC in a fancy gated community with some enormous mansions. Last night we all worked at it to feel sorry for people who live on ocean view cliffsides in houses that literally make the White House look like a middle class starter home. Seriously, a couple of these places are the size of office buildings. Were, anyway, because the fire department had to let them burn. You can't stop a classic SoCal ridgeline fire with 75' flames. You can only save places farther from the edge.

Both fires were in places that are the last ones where you'd expect a fire any months besides the traditional November and December. They're right on the ocean. The only wind pushing them is off the ocean. They're fuel driven fires. The fuel is just that. It's stressed vegetation that's evolved to burn. Now it dries out and burns in spring instead of fall.

LA is over, folks.
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New development on the OC fire. SoCal Edison reported "circuit activity" at or near the fire's origin right at the time it started.

Looks like under-maintained power lines, the achilles' heel of all California wildland interfaces, struck again. Of course, any normal year it would have caused a few trees to catch fire. Now, it takes out 200 acres of chapparal and then a whole neighborhood.

Not just LA. California is doomed. It's a 1950s vision of the future that didn't work.
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It was one helluva squall line i tell ya what. We ended up dead center. Been a long time since we had to seek shelter. Got lucky and split the difference. They got hit bad just north and south of us. We didn't even lose electric.

90's today. Hot and humid.

Odd though. That kind of weather usually shows up in July and August.

And what's with this "heat dome" that was circulating to the south of us?

It was a first for me......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_dome
A heat dome is caused when atmosphere traps hot ocean air, as if bounded by a lid or cap.[1] They can be linked to climate change.[2] The upper air weather patterns are slow to move, referred to by meteorologists as an Omega block.[3]
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Omega blocks are part of what's causing the drought in the west. On the macro scale, you have the western standing wave in the jet stream which is essentially a giant omega block, then the air sinks and stagnates in the middle part.

The recent revelation that we have a 1200-year drought squares with historical records, and we get an insight into why things seemed to be stressed worldwide around the decline of the Roman Empire and crises in most of the major civilizations in other places. It's too soon to make a strong connection, and for anything approaching academic rigor it'll take a lot more research, providing there still are things like universities or people for that matter. Right now one can say that it's interesting timing.

It's possible that everyone's right. Human caused climate change could be reinforced somewhat by a natural cycle that dates to the Pleistocene Epoch of the fossil record, before there were things like nation-states to start wars or argue over whether climate change is made worse by their insistence on burning stuff. The difference is that now we know what's going on, and we have hard data on things like CO2 levels in the atmosphere. Our biggest problem seems to be the same old shit, with people being narrow minded and ending up unable to find the unity to do something about it.
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ZoWie wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 11:29 am New development on the OC fire. SoCal Edison reported "circuit activity" at or near the fire's origin right at the time it started.

Looks like under-maintained power lines, the achilles' heel of all California wildland interfaces, struck again. Of course, any normal year it would have caused a few trees to catch fire. Now, it takes out 200 acres of chapparal and then a whole neighborhood.

Not just LA. California is doomed. It's a 1950s vision of the future that didn't work.
I personally know two people in the area. The marked themselves safe on FB, but I know many others are not safe. :(
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The point of ignition is pretty easy to see without needing close examination. The burn area is very distinct, and it spreads out from a single point. This point, coincidentally or otherwise, is right next to a big power line going into the water treatment plant. The line looks intact, but they haven't ruled it out. I assume further investigation is required.

Still, it's interesting how often these fires start in a similar spot...................
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We could have our earliest Hurricane on record to ever form in May Florida is a potential target this is one model things might change day by day.

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A total lunar eclipse will turn the moon red. Here's how to watch

(CNN) May's full moon will have stargazers seeing red.

The moon will glow a scarlet color during this year's first total lunar eclipse on Sunday -- a stark contrast to its ordinarily milky white sheen.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/13/world/to ... index.html
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ap215 wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 9:43 am A total lunar eclipse will turn the moon red. Here's how to watch

(CNN) May's full moon will have stargazers seeing red.

The moon will glow a scarlet color during this year's first total lunar eclipse on Sunday -- a stark contrast to its ordinarily milky white sheen.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/13/world/to ... index.html
ive been watching it out the living room window tonite. the dark time has lasted a long time.
i wasnt expecting that.

this months moon has seemed very high and distant vs recent months when it seemed large and low in the nite sky.
so far ive not found Orion which Has Been due right there from the moon for at least two seasons.
tonite i cant so far even find orion. dipper yes and with that O should be...right there!!
maybe the space lite colors have faded it out for now.

the darked out moon has lasted way longer than i expected.
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ZoWie wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 12:17 pm Omega blocks are part of what's causing the drought in the west. On the macro scale, you have the western standing wave in the jet stream which is essentially a giant omega block, then the air sinks and stagnates in the middle part.

The recent revelation that we have a 1200-year drought squares with historical records, and we get an insight into why things seemed to be stressed worldwide around the decline of the Roman Empire and crises in most of the major civilizations in other places. It's too soon to make a strong connection, and for anything approaching academic rigor it'll take a lot more research, providing there still are things like universities or people for that matter. Right now one can say that it's interesting timing.

It's possible that everyone's right. Human caused climate change could be reinforced somewhat by a natural cycle that dates to the Pleistocene Epoch of the fossil record, before there were things like nation-states to start wars or argue over whether climate change is made worse by their insistence on burning stuff. The difference is that now we know what's going on, and we have hard data on things like CO2 levels in the atmosphere. Our biggest problem seems to be the same old shit, with people being narrow minded and ending up unable to find the unity to do something about it.
strong connections were made 60years ago when ALL science from Sagan to all science since have stated the scientific reasons
for most of our problems, our issues relate to....deforestation. so many have forgotten this. many have not.
if you dont relate to science as an entity of life on this earth then you do jaysus and its all his fault. or his love for humans.
he lets awful shit happen but hes a good guy who luvs us all. and then no one does anything to help or solve anything Here.

ohtay. more cognitive dissonance, love from, jaysus. who wasnt returning so he told the Qrs RFK JR was the one returning.

imo the only 'natural cycle' comes from stripping the land endlessly and completely and then having the DUST BOWLS that result.
which is already beginning across the west.

there is no easy simple solution to what merica has done HERE to Itself. many places on earth are well suited to withstand
what looms for earth and the life on it. this continent here, merica, is not. we do nothing to help prevent revamp redo
learn grow redesign life for the brunt of pop who coughs up to pay the bills here.
they do in other large and small countries.

we seem here to be doing...Nothing. like we dont notice dont care dont GAF.

why isnt there a national noise about recycling the MASS of cardboard MADE FROM TREE WOODS....and tossed in the dumpster.
no one GAF. we dont do anything.

as for 'natural cycles'...theyre 'natural' when the 2legs have destroyed the local environment.
before that...the local indienous knew what wood to cut down and know when they return seasons later the forests
were in better shape. they had helped AND also made use of the timber without harming the veg land or life.

ask the kockbruthas what they GAF about.
aside from that...there is over population where needs cannot be met in any way that once may have been "normal"
for growing civ communities. we are beyond that.
for such a smert country we learn nothing.

there is a level of humans in this contry who Do care who do GAS who Are Doing things to help the earth survive.
they are in lotsa countries doing lotsa work. they Are saving the local areas.

meanwhile here the rest do nothing. no national effort to bring us together to work on making our lands safer and better.
its like the pol RWG know you cant fix what theyve fucked up.
and bringing "groups" together to protest or do the work....ohmy..thats socialism.

corps rule and the people must watch tv and play the new games.
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rainwater wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 1:41 am strong connections were made 60years ago when ALL science from Sagan to all science since have stated the scientific reasons
for most of our problems, our issues relate to....deforestation. so many have forgotten this. many have not.
Link?

Sources?
if you dont relate to science as an entity of life on this earth then you do jaysus and its all his fault. or his love for humans.
he lets awful shit happen but hes a good guy who luvs us all. and then no one does anything to help or solve anything Here.

ohtay. more cognitive dissonance, love from, jaysus. who wasnt returning so he told the Qrs RFK JR was the one returning.
?

What?
corps rule and the people must watch tv and play the new games.
:problem:

How come so many environmentalists sound like elitist conservatives sniffing down their noses at the rest of us? JFC.
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https://www.americanforests.org/article ... ge-of-man/

Farming allowed human population densities to rise and cluster into villages and chiefdoms. By about 1,000 BP, significant areas of forest were converted to intensive agriculture use for maize, squash and beans. Based on archaeological excavations of their village as described by ecologists Paul and Hazel Delcourt, the Cahokia people in Illinois (800-700 BP) cut one million trees to house 25,000 people. They also surrounded the village with a two-mile-long stockade composed of 15,000 oak and hickory logs 21 feet tall. Add all the trees they cut for fuel, and it wasn’t long before the Cahokia had leveled the forest within nine miles of their village.

Forests were also changed or eliminated by many other activities. Fires were still set to augment hunting opportunities, but the woods were also burned to make way for specific tree species. Oaks and hickories, which produce abundant, nutritious fruits in certain years, were spared or actively propagated. Northern beech and maple forests were converted into oak and pine woods interspersed with fields. The result of these management activities was a mosaic of agriculture, grassland, savanna, woodlands and forests, rather than an unbroken expanse of natural forest.

If this sounds at odds with the accounts of early explorers and settlers of pristine forests, there is a tragic reason: American Indians lacked immunity to European diseases, like smallpox and influenza, which wiped out 25 to 50 percent — sometimes 90 percent — of tribal populations. These diseases spread so quickly that, by the time a majority of European explorers arrived in an area, Indian populations had long been decimated. This allowed trees to invade the old fields, savannas and other open areas the Indians had long maintained, giving the advancing colonists a false impression of a continent-wide, untrammeled wilderness.

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This isn't entirely different from what was going on in Mesoamerica.

The Pristine Myth: How Native Americans Shaped Their World
https://openendedsocialstudies.org/2018 ... eir-world/

Historical ecologist William M. Denevan was one of the first scholars to recognize and describe the ways in which Native Americans, just like Europeans, shaped the environments in which they found themselves. In a seminal book, he called the idea that Native Americans had not significantly impacted the landscape of the Americas prior to the arrival of Europeans “the pristine myth.” To support his case, Denevan cited the many mounds, causeways, roads, terraces, and cultivated forests in both North and South America – as well as ample evidence that Native Americans used fire as a versatile tool to control and shape their environment.

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In North, Central, and South America, large-scale Native civilizations all attained large populations, began modifying their forest environment for agriculture, and built large-scale settlements, long before Europeans arrived.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforesta ... ted_States

Interesting facts:

There is no denying the Europeans deforested the North American continent on overdrive. Much more than previous Native people. Thing is, it looks like the majority of forest loss was from 1620-1850, and probably peaking around 1910 to 1920.

Forest land actually increased between 1920 and 1963. (Despite continually growing population.)

Quote:
A 2017 study estimated 3 percent loss of forest between 1992 and 2001.[5]

I won't dispute there was a massive loss of old growth forest in the U.S. (and there continue to be) nor that the impacts are harmful. The reality is most of that loss occurred before the 20th century.

Most of Europe and North America have reversed deforestation
https://www.iatp.org/news/most-of-europ ... orestation

Most countries in Europe and North America have reversed centuries of deforestation and are showing an increase in forest area, while most developing countries, especially in tropical areas, continue to experience high rates of deforestation, a U.N. agency said Tuesday.

The Rome-based Food and Agriculture Organization said in its biannual report on the State of the World's Forests that more attention is being paid to the conservation of soil, water and biological diversity.

However, poor or conflict-stricken countries still face serious challenges in managing their forests, the agency said.

Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean are currently the regions with the highest losses. Africa, which accounts for about 16 percent of the global forests, lost over 9 percent of its trees between 1990 and 2005, the agency said.

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Yes, deforestation can affect rainfall and weather patterns locally and regionally. I agree with this. Clearcutting is bad, and corporations should not be allowed to do it.

Globally, as we lose forest cover, we are getting rid of a critical carbon sink which will accelerate climate change, I also think where it is the most critical is in the rainforest/equatorial regions of the planet, which is where most of its biodiversity is concentrated.
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Finally, I regret that this point was not continued, but allow me.
Bamboo> i've heard of it's qualities before and would be curious as to how it could be used nowadays.
Thanks for raising it.

Five facts you didn’t know about bamboo forests
It is well-known to be one of the world’s fastest growing plants. But did you know that bamboo also stores more carbon than certain trees, and can be used to build wind turbine blades?
https://news.globallandscapesforum.org/ ... o-forests/

[snip]

Bamboo, the fast-growing tropical plant, is part of some of the world’s most biodiverse and carbon-rich ecosystems. However, because it is taxonomically a grass, not a tree, it is often neglected from forestry discussions.

2. Bamboo can store more carbon than certain types of tree.
5. Bamboo can prevent deforestation – and power our homes.

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It's definitely got to be part of our solution going forward to many environmental problems.
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ProfX wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 6:34 am Finally, I regret that this point was not continued, but allow me.



Thanks for raising it.

Five facts you didn’t know about bamboo forests
It is well-known to be one of the world’s fastest growing plants. But did you know that bamboo also stores more carbon than certain trees, and can be used to build wind turbine blades?
https://news.globallandscapesforum.org/ ... o-forests/

[snip]

Bamboo, the fast-growing tropical plant, is part of some of the world’s most biodiverse and carbon-rich ecosystems. However, because it is taxonomically a grass, not a tree, it is often neglected from forestry discussions.

2. Bamboo can store more carbon than certain types of tree.
5. Bamboo can prevent deforestation – and power our homes.

[snip][end]

It's definitely got to be part of our solution going forward to many environmental problems.
When I was in South Korea I'd see buildings being built and the workers were using bamboo as their scaffolding. I thought they were crazy to use bamboo but years later I learned that bamboo scaffolding was lighter and stronger than metal scaffolding. I think 60 Minutes or some PBS show did a story on bamboo and how there is one species of bamboo that is grown specifically for use in scaffolding. As you pointed out, it's fast growing so it's sustainable.
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Number6 wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 2:13 pm When I was in South Korea I'd see buildings being built and the workers were using bamboo as their scaffolding. I thought they were crazy to use bamboo but years later I learned that bamboo scaffolding was lighter and stronger than metal scaffolding. I think 60 Minutes or some PBS show did a story on bamboo and how there is one species of bamboo that is grown specifically for use in scaffolding. As you pointed out, it's fast growing so it's sustainable.
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rainwater wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:55 pm ...and...thats why natives still have powwows and 'fancy dance' every year..???..

dont talk it if you havent done it.
Hm, you done it?

Most of your posts are barely coherent, and even the readable ones are chock full of brazen, unsourced statements and outright inaccuracies.

Why in the world should anyone here believe you or take your word for anything about the Fancy Dance?

Oh and how come you never address the 5 Slaveholding Tribes and those governments’ sh#tty treatment of members of African descent? :?

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Re: bamboo, just don’t use it for your cutting boards. They’ll mess up your knives, esp if you have nice knives.
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 6:31 pm My lounging around the house togs are bamboo.

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Number6 wrote: Mon May 16, 2022 11:00 pm I guess they grow on you. :D
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rainwater wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:55 pm ...and...thats why natives still have powwows and 'fancy dance' every year..???..

i'm a bit confused. i've been to Crazy Horse twice now. Both timed to catch the dancers and presentations on oral traditions.


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Part of the presentations explained the traditions behind the dance and their dress. A different dress for every dance
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Now, i know i'm a tourist at a tourist destination, but...........Are we saying it's nothing more than a Buffalo Bill Cody show?
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I've also been to Crazy Horse Memorial.

I've been to many powwows. I've even read many articles about how they're increasingly become pan-tribal, pan-cultural events; which I think is an important development for Native unity.

I don't know who's saying that; it wasn't me. The Buffalo Bill shows were put on by white entrepreneurs to offer a white understanding of Native culture for white audiences willing to pay the admission. Could compare them to minstrel shows.

Native powwows are put on by Native people by themselves, for themselves. Totally different.

Far as I know, that original comment was in response to me making one observation: the way we represent Native Americans throughout the country (often as sports mascots) is often based on stereotypes of what a Plains Indian looked like. Tribes in the SE, the NW, and elsewhere didn't always dress that way.

There's a deeper issue, too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_bonnet

Due to their historical importance and status, traditional Native Americans now consider the wearing of headdresses without the express permission of tribal leaders to be an affront to their culture and traditions.[4][5] Consequently, in cases where non-Native political leaders have been symbolically allowed to wear the headdress, this has caused controversy.

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To explain Native peoples' discomfort with non-Indians wearing headdresses, for example, it is necessary to go back to the indigenous perspective and evaluate what the headdress means specifically to the various tribes, Crow and Lakota to name two, that make and use them. Without such context, it's impossible for non-Indians in contemporary settings to grasp the offense and harm that indigenous people feel when sacred objects and imagery are co-opted, commercialized, and commodified for non-Indians' benefit.

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Every random wasichu rock star and sports fan shouldn't just wear them because they feel like it. Even among the Native cultures that wore them, it was something you had to earn, so not everyone did.
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