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gounion wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:02 pm As you know, I have none. So are you saying I shouldn't be allowed in this discussion?

Think hard before you answer.
It’s obvious you don’t know much about children.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:08 pm Find the quote and link it.
You are big on reading. It’s in the thread. Read.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:05 pmPot to kettle
I've never made such an accusation to you. But I know that you're at that point where you start crazy lies and accusations. You always do.
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:08 pm It’s obvious you don’t know much about children.
It's obvious you're a lying sock.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:04 pm :?

You use your own grandchildren as stick figures and props. Now you're using them in irrelevant rank-pulling.

I knew about my own sexuality by the time I was 5, what does either anecdote have to do with anything.

You and that other conservative idiot still haven't looked at what an actual parent's group, PFLAG, has to say about this law.

Why not?
Not using my grandkids as props. If you were aware of your sexuality at age 5 I feel sorry for you.
At age 5 you should be thinking about kindergarten and playing on the play ground and Santa and the tooth fairy.
The furthest thing from your mind should be any adult issues.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:05 pm No but I am saying you have no first hand knowledge and probably haven't spent much time with children under age 10 in quite a while.
:lol:

What knowledge do you have about being a queer or trans kid in school?

What knowledge do you have about being a queer or trans parent?
Sex and sexuality does not cross their minds.
And you know this, how?
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:06 pm Well they aren’t attacking teachers. Not a remotely bad thing is said about teachers in the legislation.

And aside from some protection of parents and students rights most of the law has fundamental definitional problems that make it unenforceable. A bit too vague for most judges.
Yes, they ARE attacking teachers, since they obviously believe they are doing things that need to be outlawed.
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gounion wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:09 pm I've never made such an accusation to you. But I know that you're at that point where you start crazy lies and accusations. You always do.
You’ve had several off the wall rants in this thread claiming I said shit or taken positions I’ve never mentioned. So yeah. Pot to kettle.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:11 pm You’ve had several off the wall rants in this thread claiming I said shit or taken positions I’ve never mentioned. So yeah. Pot to kettle.
I'm not calling you a molester. But we know very well there's no low you won't sink to, is there?
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gounion wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:11 pm Yes, they ARE attacking teachers, since they obviously believe they are doing things that need to be outlawed.
We have speeding laws. Does that mean everybody speeds? Rules about what topics are appropriate to be discussed with someone else’s minor children doesn’t mean everyone has inappropriate conversations. See how this works? It’s simple.
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gounion wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:12 pm I'm not calling you a molester. But we know very well there's no low you won't sink to, is there?
I wouldn’t be you for one thing.
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gounion wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:11 pm Yes, they ARE attacking teachers, since they obviously believe they are doing things that need to be outlawed.
Only you could have the faulty logic gates to come up with such a stupid notion.
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gounion wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:09 pm It's obvious you're a lying sock.
Children under 9 and generally under 10 do not care about adult issues and sexuality does not cross their minds.
As does no other adult issues. Thet are children all they want is to go outside and play.
Issues of the day are of no consequence importance or concern. Around the end of 3rd grade is when that begins. By 4th grade the differences in people is full on noticed.

From kindergarten until after the middle of 3rd grade they don't notice nor care about any of this which the left believes is so important
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:08 pm You are big on reading. It’s in the thread. Read.
Your claim:
The whole “damage the psyche” concept came from a article posted by the Prof.
Back up your claim.

Link the article that has 'the whole “damage the psyche” concept.'

While you're at it, admit that you yourself buy into the belief that "discussions about sex with 8 year olds" "damagaes their psyche," which is why you uttered that stupid phrase in the first place.

This conservative ideology is the root of labeling teachers "groomers." It's a very old Cold War strategy wielded against gay teachers in the 1970s. It's being repurposed for 2022, and you dimwits are on here dutifully regurgitating it like mindless parrots.
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:15 pm Only you could have the faulty logic gates to come up with such a stupid notion.
The logic is there. If the teachers aren't doing anything wrong, then there is no reason for the law, is there?

This and Critical Race Theory is NOTHING but an attack on teachers and public education.

Of course, the right wants to shut down universal public education and use government money to bankroll religious schooling. Has been for years. Ever since Brown v. Board of Education.
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carmenjonze wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:17 pm Your claim:



Back up your claim.

Link the article that has 'the whole “damage the psyche” concept.'

While you're at it, admit that you yourself buy into the belief that "discussions about sex with 8 year olds" "damagaes their psyche," which is why you uttered that stupid phrase in the first place.

This conservative ideology is the root of labeling teachers "groomers." It's a very old Cold War strategy wielded against gay teachers in the 1970s. It's being repurposed for 2022, and you dimwits are on here dutifully regurgitating it like mindless parrots.
Read. You will figure it out. It’ll be good for you.
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gounion wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:11 pm Yes, they ARE attacking teachers, since they obviously believe they are doing things that need to be outlawed.
Thet aren't attacking teachers they simply know that the teacher is going to interject their personal beliefs.
Would you want a 5 year old asking an evangelical Christian teacher about any of this
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Glennfs wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:16 pm Children under 9 and generally under 10 do not care about adult issues and sexuality does not cross their minds.
As does no other adult issues. Thet are children all they want is to go outside and play.
Issues of the day are of no consequence importance or concern. Around the end of 3rd grade is when that begins. By 4th grade the differences in people is full on noticed.

From kindergarten until after the middle of 3rd grade they don't notice nor care about any of this which the left believes is so important
Then WTF did I get a whipping at seven due to an incident involving finding my cousin's playboy magazine?

You don't remember your childhood, do you?
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:18 pm Read. You will figure it out. It’ll be good for you.
I did. You used the term yourself. Now you're trying to piss backwards.
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ProfX wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:08 pm I never believed in Santa.
I am going to listen to the game. I am dead serious when I say ti CJ I feel bad she was thinking about her sexuality at 5.
I also feel bad that you were never permitted to believe in Santa. With one caveat if it was because of your family's faith that is different.
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Glennfs wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:01 pmchildren who still believe in Santa is ridiculous.
Please come up with a different propagnda phrase.

Not every child is Christian, and a ton of Christian children don't believe in Santa.
Again would you want the teacher who is an evangelical Christian discussing homosexuality with your 7 year old. I know I wouldn't.
There is absolutely zero reason for teachers to discuss adult relationships with children K through 3.
:?

My parents -- who were both ordained ministers -- were also public school teachers (union teachers, for that idiot JoeMemphis). My mother was credentialed for K-8 and my father for secondary school.

They knew they were limited by Engel v Vitale from imposing their own radically homophobic religious beliefs on school children.

I hope you're not suggesting that "evangelial Christian" teachers in 2022 aren't aware that they operate under the same law.
discuss adult relationships
You keep saying this, and yet you still haven't learned about LGBTQ parent groups and organizations and what they say about these censorship/defunding laws.
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JoeMemphis wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:18 pm Read.
Back up your claim, or retract it.

Third request.
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gounion wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:09 pm It's obvious you're a lying sock.
What is a sock?
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Bludogdem wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:23 pm What is a sock?
Look in the mirror, Green Grass.
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gounion wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 8:20 pm I did. You used the term yourself. Now you're trying to piss backwards.
Then you didn’t read carefully. Or you can’t understand.
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