The "Replacement Theory" and It's Role In Racial Violence.

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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 4:30 pm I don't know if she is being primaried. Based on how much money she brings in probably not. I am afraid our nation is stuck with her for quite awhile.
Yeah well, what would YOU do? Based on your comments, you’d vote for her because “she’s not a socialist”.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 4:30 pm I don't know if she is being primaried. Based on how much money she brings in probably not. I am afraid our nation is stuck with her for quite awhile.
She has five primary challengers.
https://ballotpedia.org/Marjorie_Taylor_Greene
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gounion wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 5:12 pm Yeah well, what would YOU do? Based on your comments, you’d vote for her because “she’s not a socialist”.
He would vote for her because she represents him.

She is a dyed-in-the-wool white supremacist predator and so is he, so why would he do anything different at all?
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When I predicted MAGA and trump would kill 5,000 or more patriots i.e. non trumpers, or they would stand by and do nothing if it did happen, on this board, It was before Jan 6 and before what is clearly now their desire to kill most of if not all of us. The only reason thousands werent killed on and after Jan 6 is their insurrection didnt work.

Too bad when I did this I was SCREAMED at by some folks. Oh well.

We can maybe stop them from mass violence, not sure. But they will do it if they can.

When i predicted Gorsuch would rule against Women, I was screamed at, that they would not just outlaw abortion but birth control and legalize rape, yeah that was several years ago.

DOOM and GLOOM you are, someone said. Then they made the same prediction a few weeks ago. :lol:
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 4:16 pm It would be like linking the Buffalo shooting to whomever the local congressman happens to be.
The Buffalo massacre by another conservative white male is far more than just one congressperson.

The Repulican Party is the party of violent white nationalism and misogynoir depravity outside of just one locale. The state of your entire book-banning, Muslim-banning, LGBTQ-banning, immigrant-banning party is to blame, and you welcomed it in getting this way.

Republican vigilante criminal in training:

Texas 9-Year-Old Brings a Whip to a Black Family’s Porch to Demand Their Daughter Emerge; Boy’s Father Fumbles with Gun When Confronted, Nearly Shoots His Own Child
- Yahoo.News
In a Dallas suburb last week, a whip-cracking 9-year-old white boy came to the front porch of one of his neighbors and banged on their door while demanding to confront a Black child in the home. A Ring camera video of the moment went viral after it was posted to social media.

The parents of the Black girl, Carissa Nash and her husband Dee Nash, say they posted the video to highlight how local law enforcement told them the boy is too young to face any criminal penalties. But the boy’s father, Bryan Thomas Brunson, is not, and he later would be arrested for his actions in the aftermath of the incident.

“This kid comes to my door with a whip looking for my 9-year-old daughter, then puts a big ass scratch on our Audi,” Carissa wrote of the incident that took place on Thursday, May 12, in Kaufman County Texas. “The police came out and tells us, ‘it’ll work itself out since he moving soon.’”

She also communicated what happened when they went to the child’s home. Saying that when her husband returned home, the two of them went to talk to the child and his family “about the damages done” to their vehicle.

First, the mom says she could hear the boy’s father tell him to lie and say he is not home, but minutes later the man emerges and “comes to the door with a gun.”

“He almost shot himself and his daughter standing behind him,” she wrote.

The couple posted a video of their visit to the 9-year-old’s home on YouTube.
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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 4:16 pm It would be like linking the Buffalo shooting to whomever the local congressman happens to be.
It might interest you to know that Elise Stefanik is "local congressman" of NY-21, the next district over from NY-22, where this stupid little white conservatve male is from. This ladder-pulling, no-integrity karen sounds like she's been reading your posts.

By the way, her relatives 100 years ago would have been the ones getting this same exact treatment you guys viciously dole out to today's real and perceived immigrants.
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True to form, the "local congressman" in the next congressional district over uses Orwellian, anti-immigrant language to describe her position on voting.

Voter disenfranchisement is election integrity.

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Glennfs wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 4:16 pm It would be like linking the Buffalo shooting to whomever the local congressman happens to be.
Reminder: it's not just Stefanik, or MGT or Boebert or Wendy Brown or Gosar or Trump or the people who keep making the nooz. It's your whole party. It got this way because of corrupt constituents like you.

Idaho primary pits conservative governor against Trump-backed candidate with white nationalist ties - Seattle Times
McGeachin (pronounced “Ma-GEE-hin”), a former state legislator and business owner from Idaho Falls, was the first woman elected as Idaho lieutenant governor, in 2018. Once a relatively unknown lawmaker, her profile has risen in far-right circles as she has feuded across the Capitol rotunda with Little over COVID restrictions.

Little is a conservative cattle rancher who boasts of slashing regulations and taxes, and who signed one of the nation’s strictest abortion trigger laws, which would effectively ban nearly all abortions if the U.S. Supreme Court follows through on the leaked majority draft opinion overturning Roe v. Wade. Abortion-rights advocates say such a ban would send hundreds of women seeking abortions into nearby states, including Washington and Oregon.

That’s not enough for McGeachin. If elected, she said at the rally, one of her top priorities would be to “unconditionally prohibit abortion.” Last week, she called for a special session of the Idaho Legislature to remove the few exceptions allowed in the trigger law, cases of rape and incest or to protect the life of a mother. On Facebook, she accused Little of siding with “radical leftists and satanists” in support of “murdering innocent children.”
“Everything you are dealing with, everything that you are looking at is Marxism,” warned speaker James Lindsay, a conservative author who claimed communist ideology has infiltrated Idaho schools in the form of critical race theory and “weird gender sex trans stuff.”
Sounds like you.
Michelle Malkin, a former Seattle Times opinion columnist and author of a book praising racial profiling and the incarceration of Japanese Americans during World War II, described “Brad Chicken Little” and other establishment Republicans as traitors “in bed almost literally with the woke enemies who are predators of your children.”

Wendy Rogers, an Arizona state senator known for echoing Trump’s false claims of a stolen election — and who was censured by her colleagues after calling for construction of gallows to hang political enemies — told the crowd, “We will not move on to 2022 until we find out the truth of 2020!”

Rogers has led a movement of pro-Trump state legislators nationally in demanding a 50-state “forensic” election audit and potential decertification of the 2020 election. Three Washington state Republicans were among the 186 state legislators nationally who have signed a letter backing those demands.

Dorothy Moon, a legislator running for Idaho secretary of state who also signed Rogers’ letter, told the rally crowd she was motivated to run by the 2020 election result, which she viewed as illegitimate. “I think you are all here today because you know this… We all know there were shenanigans at play,” she said.
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“We’re going to save Idaho,” McGeachin said in an interview on Peters’ show, released two days after her rally. “God calls us to pick up the sword and fight. And Christ will reign in the state of Idaho.”
Your party is full of Christofascists like this, and has been for decades.
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No shock: Rogers implied the Buffalo shooting was a staged incident, a la Alex Jones.
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Graph from the NYT. Extremist/terrorist murders based on motivation. 2012-2021.

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Oh my. Those "Antifa Leftists" have a real reign of terror going there. :roll:

And again, Islamist terrorist violence dwarfed by that of MAGAterrorists and whitenats.
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It appears the authorities in New York failed miserably to make use of the red flag law with the Buffalo shooter. Could have taken his guns and stopped him from purchasing guns legally.
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Bludogdem wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:19 am It appears the authorities in New York failed miserably to make use of the red flag law with the Buffalo shooter. Could have taken his guns and stopped him from purchasing guns legally.
Blame shifting.
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Seems the problem is he wasn't specific enough.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ne ... -rcna29054

Hochul said a teacher had asked Gendron about his plans just before the start of summer vacation last year. He responded, “I want to murder and commit suicide,” Hochul said.

School officials immediately alerted police, Hochul said. Gendron underwent a psychiatric evaluation and was released, Hochul said, adding that there was “not a specific threat” or “something that seemed to be actionable.”

“There was nothing that flagged that he wouldn’t be able to — from that encounter, at the time — be able to go into a store and purchase a gun,” she said. “Now, we need to question that, as well. There’s a lot of layers here that we need to get to the bottom of and find out if changes need to be made.”

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BTW, that psychiatric evaluation apparently didn't show him to be clinically mentally ill, either.

I guess if he had been more specific about the threat, the red flag law would have been invoked. Sad but true.
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ProfX wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 7:18 am No shock: Rogers implied the Buffalo shooting was a staged incident, a la Alex Jones.
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Can't go to high school

Can't go to college

Can't go to a concert

Can't go to the movies

Can't go to Sikh temple

Can't go to mosque

Can't go to a protest

Can't go to 1st grade

Can't go to the grocery store...

...without wondering if today is the day some white conservative male will shoot your grandmother point blank in the head.

One of our two political parties is full of domestic terrorists.
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I guess maybe we DO need to worry that in Nov the GOP will simply refuse to allow democracy to occur. Refuse elections to be certified. I know some here know this and we have talked about it.

I just wish the people in power would talk about it. I am curious to see what happens with the scumbags Oz and Cawley, see if they somehow get the troops (their comrades in the GOP I mean) to attack the elections. If they are not successful it will be because it is a primary. I PRAY I am wrong that red state after red state wont REFUSE to certify elections they lose. And with Musk backing off of Twitter buy, and the traitor not getting back on, that is hopeful in this area also. The less voice the mass murdering traitor has, the better.
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The Scriptures tell us that life & death is in the power of the tongue. We must challenge the death-dealing language that suggests some people’s very existence threatens other people’s well being.
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gounion wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:25 amBlame shifting.
Oh no, he’s to blame.

The authorities fucked up. Not unusual.
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Bludogdem wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:45 pm Oh no, he’s to blame.

The authorities fucked up. Not unusual.
And the racist right-wing media fed his hatred.
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gounion wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 11:06 pm And the racist right-wing media fed his hatred.
Not to mention run-of-the-mill good germans like greengrass and the rest of the cons around here.

They are the target market for the media, and they eagerly lap it up, regurgitate it, then demand everyone else be "open minded" to their white supremacism.
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Bludogdem wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:45 pm Oh no, he’s to blame.

The authorities fucked up. Not unusual.
Your dirty, dishonest culture produces these mass murderers.

You inundate them with propaganda about nonexistent "critical race theory" in schools and raise sand to get teachers fired and books banned.

Meanwhile, white replacement theory has been around from the outset of at least the Alien and Sedition act of 1793. It's overwhelmingly responsible for not just the mass murders of the past two decades, but hundreds of discriminatory laws, policies, and literal genocides.

When do you think conservative whites will get around to storming the local school board to get white repacement theory out of schools?
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After scraping the last $100 million dollars from the bottom of the peanut butter jar before the new peanut butter jar arrives to fund more war, the whitehouse is crying poverty.

US sees risk of COVID supply rationing without more funds
....A small pool of money remains, and the administration faces critical decisions about how to spend it. That means tough decisions, like weighing whether to use it to secure the next generation of vaccines to protect the highest risk populations or giving priority to a supply of highly effective therapies that dramatically reduce the risks of severe illness and death......


..........Jha said this week that the U.S. has yet to start negotiations with drugmakers because of the lack of money.

“We’ve had some very preliminary conversations with the manufacturers,” he said. “But the negotiations around it have not yet begun, partly because we’re waiting for resources.” He added: “The truth is that other countries are in conversations with the manufacturers and starting to kind of advance their negotiations.”

The U.S., he said, doesn't have enough money to purchase additional booster vaccines for anyone who wants one. Instead, the supplies of those vaccines may be restricted to just the most vulnerable — not unlike the chaotic early days of the COVID-10 vaccine roll-out..............
get the feeling as soon as there is more money to pour out to corporate and big business everything will calm down a again at least for a little while. That thats what the dire emergency probably is, the menacing of who will face the worst of rationing is another entirely that plays into the type of insecurity and fear like is being discussed here.

COVID-19, shootings: Is mass death now tolerated in America?
......Certain communities have always borne the brunt of higher death rates in the United States. There are profound racial and class inequalities in the United States, and our tolerance of death is partly based on who is at risk, says Elizabeth Wrigley-Field, a sociology professor at the University of Minnesota who studies mortality.

“Some people’s deaths matter a lot more than others,” she laments. “And I think that’s what we’re seeing in this really brutal way with this coincidence of timing.”....
.....“You expect us to keep doing this over and over and over again — over again, forgive and forget,” her son, former Buffalo Fire Commissioner Garnell Whitfield, Jr., told reporters. “While people we elect and trust in offices around this country do their best not to protect us, not to consider us equal.”

That sense — that politicians have done little even as the violence repeats itself – is shared by many Americans. It’s a dynamic that’s encapsulated by the “thoughts and prayers” offered to victims of gun violence by politicians unwilling to make meaningful commitments to ensure there really is no more “never again,” according to Martha Lincoln, an anthropology professor at San Francisco State University who studies the cultural politics of public health.....
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I would agree that mass death is now acceptable in the USA. The ho hum response to weekly mass shootings and the growing rejection of covid measures in the middle of the Fifth Wave seem to be the latest manifestations of this.
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I think Motor's post makes an additional point - which I agree with.

It's not just the insouciance ... like that word ... and general indifference to mass death and suffering of others.

A definite factor is who seems to be being affected by mass shootings aka domestic terrorism the most often (see above table), and of course which groups bear the most disproportionate effects of COVID-19. Hint: not upper-class white folks. Part of the indifference is the groups being worst affected don't elicit the most sympathy ... at least from MAGAmerica. Lots of discussion about the age-graded mortality tables; weird how folks don't want to talk about the disparate racial impacts.

Some of us remember the early days of HIV and how the Great Reagan largely ignored it because, after all, it was the "gay plague" and was just affecting Haitians and Africans. Let 'em die. (Was never true, but of course, the same kind of scapegoating/indifference played out.)

This is also a big factor in environmental justice, and who in the country often bears the worst impacts from pollution and toxic waste; which is why, as I said, from that lens, the environment is a social justice issue. I also think it has to do with the indifference toward environmental issues as well.

The thing about climate change, and what it hammers home, is this really plays out on a global scale: the groups who are generating the most of the problem (greenhouse gasses) will not face the worst consequences ... like people in the Pacific watching the islands they live on get submerged. Now I'm not saying the U.S. won't have impacts - we're seeing them now - it's just the worst might well be elsewhere.
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You're right, but as a media person I have to add that much of the problem is that denial is not just a river in Egypt. The denial pandemic is far deadlier than the covid pandemic alone, and they interact, and when one sees the denial everywhere else too, it's clear that the situation is dire indeed. People are so burned out by the daily drone of disasters that they have simply retreated into fatalism, solipsism, apathy, or Internet and the global conspiracy theory du jour. I see this happening to me, where it's easier just not to consume media, and instead just stay disconnected and try to cover my own ass.

It may be the biggest social retreat since the Italian Renaissance morphed into mannerism. It's very daunting. At some point, action without consequence becomes exhausting. Activist burnout is inevitable in this situation.

How do you motivate the average everyday person to give a shit about the whole system?
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Everyone does what they can.

Where I am most effective is educating them. It may not be my role or responsibility to tell them who to vote for or what issues to care about, but I do believe I have the responsibility to make sure they know the proper information and knowledge that go into making those decisions.

Where possible, I also take part in social movements. I wouldn't be a good person at leading them. Just not my personality. Introverts are not good at that type of thing.
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